Questions about finland?

[TheNativeFinn]

If you have any questions about finland or finnish language, please go ahead and ask me in this topic. I'll promise to try to answer you when I have time. I may not be able to answer all kind of questions.

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[Porky84]

Hei TheNativeFinn,
cool posting, thanks. So nice of you to offer advice. A few questions come to my mind
1) What do you personally like and dislike about Suomi?
2) What values do you have and which do you think are important for most Finns in general?
3) How do you feel about foreigners who have been living here for a long time, but have given up learning Finnish or just don't want to?
I've noticed when talking Finnish, natives are much more helpful and they really appreciate it.
4) I'm working and living in Finnish and struggle with the "special words". I cannot always understand customer E-mails, so I have to ask my work mates what sth. means. An example: "jäädä juntturaan" means mennyt jumiin. "nisukahvi" is pullakahvi, haha. Do you have any tipp how or where I could learn those kind of words?
Of course, nobody has taught these in the Finnish courses.
5) Do you feel foreign cultures enrich Finland or Finnish culture?

Thanks in advance for yout interesting reply.

[TheNativeFinn]

Hei TheNativeFinn,
cool posting, thanks. So nice of you to offer advice. A few questions come to my mind
1) What do you personally like and dislike about Suomi?
2) What values do you have and which do you think are important for most Finns in general?
3) How do you feel about foreigners who have been living here for a long time, but have given up learning Finnish or just don't want to?
I've noticed when talking Finnish, natives are much more helpful and they really appreciate it.
4) I'm working and living in Finnish and struggle with the "special words". I cannot always understand customer E-mails, so I have to ask my work mates what sth. means. An example: "jäädä juntturaan" means mennyt jumiin. "nisukahvi" is pullakahvi, haha. Do you have any tipp how or where I could learn those kind of words?
Of course, nobody has taught these in the Finnish courses.
5) Do you feel foreign cultures enrich Finland or Finnish culture?

Thanks in advance for yout interesting reply.

Hello Porky84!

1) Things I like: Fairly good wages, great educational system, only a little corruption and big conflicts, good food and drink quality, enough space for everyone because of small population, beautiful nature, government helps you financially if needed, generally nice people, hot summer and cold winter!
Things I don't like: High taxes, most products are quite expensive (food, electronics, etc.), too much drunkards and other underprivileged people who waste money of taxpayers.
2) Finns appreciate honesty and diligence, as well as good education.
3) I know that Finnish is pretty hard language and because of that I understand people who have given up learning Finnish. English is widely used in many organizations in Finland so lack of Finnish skills is not a big problem usually. Anyhow as you said, we really do appreciate a lot people who have learned to speak Finnish and when I'm listening a foreigner speaking Finnish I don't even hear the mistakes because I know that he/she have done a huge job in learning Finnish. Finns are not always very self-confident about their language skills so that's one reason why Finns are more eager to help if you speak Finnish.
4) Besides complicated grammar there is fairly many of these "special words". I really don't know other ways to learn them but just learn them as you see them. I'm sorry.
5) In some levels foreign cultures can enrich Finland's culture but personally I think that in many cases they make Finland look more like other European countries and especially Finland's cities will look more like other European cities. And that is because not many foreigners move to countryside. But this is just my personal opinion.

I apologize for my imperfect english.

[onkko]

If you have any questions about finland or finnish language, please go ahead and ask me in this topic. I'll promise to try to answer you when I have time. I may not be able to answer all kind of questions.

If your question is more like private type, you can always send me a private message but if it might help someone else, please write it in this topic.

And how you think you are able to answer as '"finn".
I am as you describe as true finn but i cant tell anything as "finn".
400 years of living and angry way too angry. I would say im nothing like ordinary finn.
To me its more like "do i understand or like or what is that" and i do manage with that.
And you, you arent a finn, you are one foreigner and you have to prove that you are a finn,.

[Jukka Aho]

4) I'm working and living in Finnish and struggle with the "special words". I cannot always understand customer E-mails, so I have to ask my work mates what sth. means. An example: "jäädä juntturaan" means mennyt jumiin. "nisukahvi" is pullakahvi, haha. Do you have any tipp how or where I could learn those kind of words?

Jäädä juntturaan is a colloquial expression. It means “to get stuck”, especially when referring to misbehaving digital devices, such as computers or phones. Se jäi juntturaan — “It got stuck.” (The operating system or the application crashed, or the device or application was otherwise rendered into an unresponsive state.)

Nisu is an old word for wheat. By extension — and in the surviving modern-day usage — it is usually taken to mean a (sweet) wheat roll/bun, pulla. These days, you primarily hear the word nisu in contexts where people let their regional dialect show. It’s something of a “rustic” word. You would rather expect to encounter it “in the provinces” than in, say, downtown Helsinki, where people are generally more concerned and conscious about their street cred and try to actively avoid speaking like their country-bumpkin cousins. ;)

Some search terms for you which you might or might not find useful: “colloquial Finnish”, “murresanakirja”.

If you happen to live in a region where people often speak in some specific dialect, you can usually also find random web pages with word lists specific to that region/dialect, featuring the most peculiar words you don’t usually hear anyplace else and their equivalents or explanations in standard Finnish. Sort of like unofficial dictionaries compiled by laymen. But you would first have to ask people what they call their dialect to get a search term for it. (For example, Etelä-Pohjanmaan murre, Turun murre, ...)

[TheNativeFinn]

If you have any questions about finland or finnish language, please go ahead and ask me in this topic. I'll promise to try to answer you when I have time. I may not be able to answer all kind of questions.

If your question is more like private type, you can always send me a private message but if it might help someone else, please write it in this topic.

And how you think you are able to answer as '"finn".
I am as you describe as true finn but i cant tell anything as "finn".
400 years of living and angry way too angry. I would say im nothing like ordinary finn.
To me its more like "do i understand or like or what is that" and i do manage with that.
And you, you arent a finn, you are one foreigner and you have to prove that you are a finn,.

What is your point? Believe or not, I am a native finn. I was born in Finland and I have lived my whole life here. Please tell me a way to prove it.

[Pursuivant]

Ota pieru kiinni ja maalaa se punaseksi

[cors187]

If you have any questions about finland or finnish language, please go ahead and ask me in this topic. I'll promise to try to answer you when I have time. I may not be able to answer all kind of questions.

If your question is more like private type, you can always send me a private message but if it might help someone else, please write it in this topic.

And how you think you are able to answer as '"finn".
I am as you describe as true finn but i cant tell anything as "finn".
400 years of living and angry way too angry. I would say im nothing like ordinary finn.
To me its more like "do i understand or like or what is that" and i do manage with that.
And you, you arent a finn, you are one foreigner and you have to prove that you are a finn,.

What is your point? Believe or not, I am a native finn. I was born in Finland and I have lived my whole life here. Please tell me a way to prove it.

I am sure onkko refers to your mental state.

[TheNativeFinn]

Ota pieru kiinni ja maalaa se punaseksi

Ok, mitenkäs tämä nyt liittyi sitten aiheeseen??

[Pursuivant]

Ei se liittynytkään, kunhan piruilin. Tänne tarttee tasapainoa eli jos ja kun vaan jaksaa selventää. Älä pala loppuun samoihin tyhmiin kysymyksiin. Ja joo, vaikka siinä lukee että voi hakea niin sei tarkoita että saa luvan. Kanssa jos kiinnostaa, niin käy jonkun EU:n kanssa rekisteröitymisrumban läpi... hauskin on muna&kana ilmiö kun työnantaja haluaa sotun ennenkuin kirjoittaaa työsopimuksen ja maistraatti haluaa työsopimuksen ennenkuin antaa sotun...

[TheNativeFinn]

Ei se liittynytkään, kunhan piruilin. Tänne tarttee tasapainoa eli jos ja kun vaan jaksaa selventää. Älä pala loppuun samoihin tyhmiin kysymyksiin. Ja joo, vaikka siinä lukee että voi hakea niin sei tarkoita että saa luvan. Kanssa jos kiinnostaa, niin käy jonkun EU:n kanssa rekisteröitymisrumban läpi... hauskin on muna&kana ilmiö kun työnantaja haluaa sotun ennenkuin kirjoittaaa työsopimuksen ja maistraatti haluaa työsopimuksen ennenkuin antaa sotun...

Tuossa kirjoitelmassa ei ollut kyllä päätä eikä häntää. Eikä mitään siitä väliltäkään.

[Jukka Aho]

Ei se liittynytkään, kunhan piruilin. Tänne tarttee tasapainoa eli jos ja kun vaan jaksaa selventää. Älä pala loppuun samoihin tyhmiin kysymyksiin. Ja joo, vaikka siinä lukee että voi hakea niin sei tarkoita että saa luvan. Kanssa jos kiinnostaa, niin käy jonkun EU:n kanssa rekisteröitymisrumban läpi... hauskin on muna&kana ilmiö kun työnantaja haluaa sotun ennenkuin kirjoittaaa työsopimuksen ja maistraatti haluaa työsopimuksen ennenkuin antaa sotun... :thumbsup:

Tuossa kirjoitelmassa ei ollut kyllä päätä eikä häntää. Eikä mitään siitä väliltäkään.

Pursu siinä vain kertoilee millaisiin (toistuviin) kysymyksiin ihmiset täältä enimmäkseen hakevat vastauksia. Useimmin kysytyt kysymykset eivät siis liity Kalevalaan, saunaan, sisuun, eivätkä Matti Nykäseen, vaan lupiin ja viranomaisasioihin.

Palstalla on monta aktiivisesti kommentoivaa syntyperäistä suomalaista. On tietenkin aikaisempaan tilanteeseen nähden helpotus, että nyt joku vastailee omassa ketjussaan meidän kaikkien puolesta ”the” kantasuomalaisena, virallisella Suomen sinivalkoisella äänellä. Onnea matkaan!

[Pursuivant]

Ville Valokaan ei vedä goottityttöjä enää samalla voimalla kuin ennen

Sen kunniaksi

[Jukka Aho]

Ville Valokaan ei vedä goottityttöjä enää samalla voimalla kuin ennen :shock:

Villehän on jo vanha paappa. Eivät nuoret tytöt sellaisia enää.

Bänditulokasrintamalla on jotenkin köyhää nykyään. Syytän asiantilasta MTV3:n Jyrki-ohjelman lopetusta.

[Upphew]

Bänditulokasrintamalla on jotenkin köyhää nykyään. Syytän asiantilasta MTV3:n Jyrki-ohjelman lopetusta.

Se, radion soittolistat ja MTV:n päätös lopettaa musiikkivideoiden näyttäminen...