HAAGA HELIA International Business

Tareks · Post by **Tareks** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:40 pm

Hi,
I am applying for International Business and I am considering making H-H my first option, what do you think of it in terms of:
- Competitiveness to get in
- Its business education
- Th extent to which they care about student issues

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Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:52 pm

Well, it depends, the school is known to be "the place" for a few things... Languages/secretary college, restaurant/hotel management, tourism (porvoo campus) and IT (business information technology)... On the business sode IIRC its the only place to do "insurance maths"... Even I am opinionated that "international business" is for stupid foreigners counting trees in nowheremäki selling kebab to those taking engineering, HH has a couple ambitious joint programmes, one with Baltics/Russia and the other with China (still kicking myself not doing the semester in Shanghai) .. Oh, and they do have one of the few and only SAP/R3 labs (with courses available to business majors). So yes, good school, opportunities. (I was an IT major, I took Spanish and Indurance Maths

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Don't know these days, but "back in the day" the student union international office with the org... erasmus (s)exchange students was active

Tareks · Post by **Tareks** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:28 am

Hahaha, your opinion about IB students is hilarious!
Oddly, I agree with you to some extent, being clueless of one's objectives leads automatically to conformity, acting on the general belief that being involved in the business world translates to good job opportunities and a life of success, that's being mindless, but if you know exactly why chose something and you can perfectly explain how it may contribute to the desired outcome I wouldn't call it being stupid, wouldn't you agree?

Anyway, how hard is it to be admitted?

catfish78 · Post by **catfish78** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:28 am

I would skip HH in hindsight, maybe go to Metropolia or Alto.

Tareks · Post by **Tareks** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:21 pm

catfish78 wrote:I would skip HH in hindsight, maybe go to Metropolia or Alto.

Have you had any unpleasant experience with them that you wanna share with us?

catfish78 · Post by **catfish78** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:53 pm

Tareks wrote:
catfish78 wrote:I would skip HH in hindsight, maybe go to Metropolia or Alto.
Have you had any unpleasant experience with them that you wanna share with us?

If your degree is in Finnish it may be fine. If you expect coherent English out of all of your teachers, I can only imagine it is better elsewhere. Plus their love of PBL is farcical.

lovelyjet · Post by **lovelyjet** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:01 am

Tareks wrote:Hahaha, your opinion about IB students is hilarious!
Oddly, I agree with you to some extent, being clueless of one's objectives leads automatically to conformity, acting on the general belief that being involved in the business world translates to good job opportunities and a life of success, that's being mindless, but if you know exactly why chose something and you can perfectly explain how it may contribute to the desired outcome I wouldn't call it being stupid, wouldn't you agree?

Anyway, how hard is it to be admitted?

In my opinion, better school does increase your chance of getting a good job, unless you are going to start your own business. Besides, you get to know better people too.

Getting into HH business program depends largely on whether the interviewer likes you and gives you high score. Math and logic in the entrance exam is easier than what I dealt with in primary school. I have the impression that the entrance exam of Metropolia is better for selecting business students, thus I assume that the program there is better. Aalto seems to be the best choice, given its reputation abroad and its requirements of SAT, which challenges you academically.

Safer option would be BIT of HH, it does not go deep into IT, but teaches you what is currently considered "cool" in the business world such as ERP and Big Data. Safest option would be an engineer program in Metropolia.

Evaphio · Post by **Evaphio** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:11 pm

Pursuivant wrote:Well, it depends, the school is known to be "the place" for a few things... Languages/secretary college, restaurant/hotel management, tourism (porvoo campus) and IT (business information technology)... On the business sode IIRC its the only place to do "insurance maths"... Even I am opinionated that "international business" is for stupid foreigners counting trees in nowheremäki selling kebab to those taking engineering, HH has a couple ambitious joint programmes, one with Baltics/Russia and the other with China (still kicking myself not doing the semester in Shanghai) .. Oh, and they do have one of the few and only SAP/R3 labs (with courses available to business majors). So yes, good school, opportunities. (I was an IT major, I took Spanish and Indurance Maths )

Don't know these days, but "back in the day" the student union international office with the org... erasmus (s)exchange students was active

Ha-ha, the first time I agree with you. But it is very much the matter of educational quality.
Personally, consider 2 years of studying at BBA to be "lost" years, though I know people who made their careers. I think it does depend on a school and on how motivated you are.

As for me, selling kebab is something that would suit me part-time) I would not even mind, because my interests lie outside career-making, and I somehow lost any trust in education. I just think there is something as self-developement, life is short, and I can not give it out to career and other standard procedures. I do think such philosophy is not totally stupid.

(lost trust in education does not mean I do not believe there are good places to study in the world. I studied 1st time 10 years ago. Unfortunatelly, haven't seen that level any more. I generally believe schools in their majority are a waste of time)

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