Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

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JoeBA
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Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

Post by JoeBA » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:12 pm

Terve to all, this is my first post so I´d try to be short. :)

My girlfriend is a EU-national, and we both are thinking of moving to Finland. We were born (and still live) in Argentina, but given our blood roots, I may also become EU-national at some point in time. This prompts two scenarios in my mind:

Suppose I do not get the citizenship. We would be getting married from time to time, so it would be just a matter of years to get in fact the naturalization. In the meantime, can we move together as a married couple, being she a EU national (and not me)? Or would it be easier to get the EU citizenship first, and then move as a married couple of two EU-nationals? We both have degrees in science and think that getting a job wouldn´t be an impossible task. I´m thinking also of taking up Finnish courses to widen my job-finding chances.

Also I´d like to get things straight, does being a EU national allow working and living permanently in Finland? Or will we need to go through some kind of authorization process?

Many thanks to all for your answers, 8)


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Re: Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

Post by interleukin » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:36 am

Of course being an EU citizen makes things less complicated for you, but it doesn't automatically solve every problem out there.

To move to Finland, even an EU citizen needs a reason. The reasons are family ties (to someone who is residing in Finland), studying (=you are accepted already) or work (=you have a job fixed already). If you have one of these, it's usually quite easy to get registered as an EU citizen.

So your girlfriend can come to Finland without problems as a tourist and if she finds a job or a study place, she can be registered as a resident. You don't write how long you have been together/how much you could document that, but if you've been together more than two years or so, you could get registered based on family ties to her. In this case, it's pretty much the same as being married.

Your first goal needs to be for one of you to find a job or a study place in Finland. If you manage that, then the other person can probably come join him/her without major problems. You'd still need to show proof that you can support the other spouse if they are registered based on their family relationship with you.

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Re: Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

Post by rinso » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:50 am

We both have degrees in science and think that getting a job wouldn´t be an impossible task.
Not impossible is quite different from "good/reasonable chance". If you're a specialist in a niche field that we desperately need your chance is better than average. Otherwise ???
I´m thinking also of taking up Finnish courses to widen my job-finding chances.
Don't under estimate the difficulty of the language and the demands from employers for (near) fluency.

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Re: Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

Post by Rip » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:26 pm

First of all, are you "family members" in legal sense (co-habitation for at least two years)?
JoeBA wrote: Also I´d like to get things straight, does being a EU national allow working and living permanently in Finland? Or will we need to go through some kind of authorization process?
An EU national needs a register. It is not a problem IF you have a job:
http://poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/page ... endocument
The non-EU spouse can then also be registered:
http://poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/page ... endocument

The main drawback that comes to my mind (if you're formally considered family) is that what about if it is YOU that would turn out to be more employable half your family? You'd need a (non-EU foreigner) residence permit for an employed person (that unlike the EU registration is not guaranteed even if there is a job available) if you're not already registered as a family member of an (employed) EU citizen.

Another issue for you is what would happen if you separated. If you register as a family member of an EU citizen then your legal status year for some years will depend on you continuing to be a family member of that EU citizen.

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Re: Married EU-citizens vs. Married EU and non-EU citizens

Post by cors187 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:50 pm

does being a EU national allow
Yes , everything is enhanced from being a foreign classed resident.
Our eligibility to this little card even takes some time.
https://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf ... endocument


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