Can anyone clarify what takes to be a professional cleaner?

irvman · Post by **irvman** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:14 pm

Currently I haven't found work on my own field so I decided to just go for cleaning or kitchen work since I have a hygiene certificate from Evira and past restaurant experience. So I replied to the following post from MOL:

http://www.mol.fi/tyopaikat/tyopaikkati ... 250_fi.htm

Within five minutes i received the following reply:

"Thank you for your interest and application.

At this moment we are looking only for professional hotel cleaners;

people who already have good and long experience from hotel housekeeping department."

Just to clarify for everyone else here looking into cleaning in Finland as an option when jobseeking. What is a professional cleaner? Language requirements to get such degree? Time to achieve and expected salary.

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betelgeuse · Post by **betelgeuse** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:24 pm

irvman wrote:

people who already have good and long experience from hotel housekeeping department."

Here they explain to you what they mean with professionals.

irvman wrote: Just to clarify for everyone else here looking into cleaning in Finland as an option when jobseeking. What is a professional cleaner? Language requirements to get such degree? Time to achieve and expected salary.

There's is second level training available in cleaning. However, as mentioned I don't think this is what they were requiring here.

Godzilla · Post by **Godzilla** » Fri May 16, 2014 4:24 pm

I don't know about certificates and such, but I can tell you from having hired cleaners that it isn't a job that just anybody can do. A good cleaner gets things clean and a bad one is a waste of money. It may not be considered a skill, probably because it is mostly a female job and calling it a skill would mean having to pay a decent wage, but some people have learned to do it, and some haven't and the difference is readily apparent.

betelgeuse · Post by **betelgeuse** » Mon May 19, 2014 10:45 am

roger_roger wrote:
Godzilla wrote: it is mostly a female job
isn't that being sexist?

The only female job is giving birth which no male can do, all other jobs are genderically equal, imho.

I read that to mean: most of the workers in the profession are female. This is a fact so I didn't consider it sexist.

thanquanngoc · Post by **thanquanngoc** » Mon May 19, 2014 10:22 pm

Testing testing

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Wed May 21, 2014 2:49 am

It says they are looking for experience in hotel housekeeping. Its totally different than kitchen porter doing the pot wash.

cors187 · Post by **cors187** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:21 pm

AA profession or professional in Finland is someone who operates within the particular trade.
Your a random i guess and they knew it.

Lavinia · Post by **Lavinia** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:47 am

Technically it does require a specific training(above all in late may I had to work with youngsters doing internships)
In practical, your best bet would be get hired by one of these "renting people companies"(henkilöstövuokraus firma, I think) and as they won't have anything in your field(I'm guessing they won't),they'll eventually give you cleaning/kitchen jobs. They'll teach you how to do(and if you are smart enough, you'll say yes to every shift and learn as many skills as you can).
In few places they actually have a one day training,which is more than enough to learn such a job(IMO).
Anyway, good luck.

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