YKI Test Levels

[one]

Hi,

Is there a single test for the YKI Level 1 and 2? Or is there separate test for each level?

From the oph.fi website:

The Basic level test (perustaso) is aimed at skill levels 1-2.

Can this basic level test be compared with Suomi 1 and Suomi 2 level of University of Helsinki?

Is there any previous exam available just to get the idea? Also is there any recommended study material for that?
Sorry for many questions, will appreciate any help regarding this.

[onkko]

Skill levels go from a1 (a2, b1, b2, c1) to c2. Thats EU standard i think.
If you do level 2 (a2) then you have done level 1 (a1) too because if you can do level 2(a2) then you do have to have skills above to level 1(a1)

Exams change so you cant know exactly what you are up to, only general requirements.

http://www.helsinki.fi/kksc/language.se ... ukset.html about levels.

Im not sure if there is broad tests for levels 1 to 6 at once or if all tests are like that, that you have to ask from school. Someone with knowledge may help here?

If there is level 1-2 test then you get level 2, what means level 1 is done too. or level 1 or nah, try again.

[GermanInHelsinki]

Why are you not reading the page you link to? The page of course answers your second question.

[foca]

As far as i understand all tests are arranged in 3 categories - a, b and c. In any test category one may get 1 or 2 level of proficiency if the test is passed. As such while having a test for a b category one may get b1 or b2 level. Same goes for c tests. C level tests are filmed and are partly done one on one with an examiner.

[one]

Thanks everyone, especially tummansininen, it was very helpful.

[Hazen]

http://oph.fi/english/services/yki

This site has lots of information about the tests and test levels. If I have understood correctly, you only have to pass two of the fours areas, but they have to be in a certain combination (I don't recall these offhand). I know of one person that passed the test for the intermediate level in Finnish even though he only got a 2 on the speaking part.
1.Reading comprehension
2.Writing
3.Listening comprehension, and
4.Speaking

[one]

If I have understood correctly, you only have to pass two of the fours areas,

Can someone confirm this?

[betelgeuse]

You need to pass particular combinations. Hazen already answered the question and it is correct. For example, if you can speak and write but not understand anything you will not be eligible for citizenship. If I remember correctly you need to have one receptive skill as a 3 and one expressive skill as a 3 - but I cannot find the website that spells out which combinations are ok and which are not.

The combos are here:

http://www.migri.fi/suomen_kansalaisuus ... litutkinto

[faronel]

http://www.migri.fi/suomen_kansalaisuus ... litutkinto

Hm, this is very interesting!

Talking and writing
Understanding of speech and writing
Understanding of written text and speaking

So, this means that it is not a combination of one receptive language skill (understanding of speech/written text) and one expressive language skill (writing/speaking) but a combination of one oral language skill (speaking/understanding of speech) and one written language skill (writing/understanding of written text). At first, I thought that
the combination of "talking and writing" (both expressive language skills) maybe slightly misleading here in a sense that it begs for the an assumption that the people who created the pass criteria for the YKI tests value a combination of written/oral skills more than a combination of expressive/receptive language skills. However, I guess you cannot express yourself in language that you do not understand yourself (receptive > expressive).

As a side note, would you [whoever reads it] agree that "understanding of speech" and "writing" is the most hardcore combination?

[foca]

One important thing to add: one can prove language proficiency with more than one certificate (provided that one sits the whole test). So if you pass the "wrong" combination the first time - you know on which to concentrate the second time you take the test

[onkko]

http://www.migri.fi/suomen_kansalaisuus ... litutkinto

Hm, this is very interesting!

Talking and writing
Understanding of speech and writing
Understanding of written text and speaking

So, this means that it is not a combination of one receptive language skill (understanding of speech/written text) and one expressive language skill (writing/speaking) but a combination of one oral language skill (speaking/understanding of speech) and one written language skill (writing/understanding of written text). At first, I thought that
the combination of "talking and writing" (both expressive language skills) maybe slightly misleading here in a sense that it begs for the an assumption that the people who created the pass criteria for the YKI tests value a combination of written/oral skills more than a combination of expressive/receptive language skills. However, I guess you cannot express yourself in language that you do not understand yourself (receptive > expressive).

As a side note, would you [whoever reads it] agree that "understanding of speech" and "writing" is the most hardcore combination?

Those are for nationality and not for getting in university, those are for people who just cant or are too old, cant read/write etc. but still show "good enough" skill in finnish.
I dont know if there is even any "european stuff" to grade in those cases.

If you are young, able etc.thats not for you. And if you are looking university, forget those.

[foca]

I dont know if there is even any "european stuff" to grade in those cases.

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Nowadays all is based on the European stuff . The ABC systems is used throughout EU. In most countries where there is a language requirement for naturalization it is B1. If one wants to enroll into an university it is usually C1 (for example in Germany). And the requirements to pass are standardized as well.