refusal of spouse resident permit

[rinso]

So if anti-immigration people take over migri and set the limit at 5000 euros a month, is it your position that administrative courts will not reverse the decisions since migri procedures were followed?

The administrative court will, in an appeal case, not look at the validity of the regulations.
(we're not talking about a personal interpretation of the rules, are we?)
It is of course possible to fight the regulations, but I suspect that case will end up in the supreme court.

[harryc]

But there are mechanisms in place to avoid double taxation.

And indeed a warning here!! - bilateral tax treaties are very complicated. Do NOT assume that both countries consider the same taxes and the same considerations to be covered by the treaty - exceptions favoring taxes to be APPLIED may have lists as long as your arm.

[arkadin]

As per the website it says 1000€ for adult and 700€ for spouse which means total 1700€ should be freely available after tax.

what is the meaning of 1700€ per month after tax ??

Does it mean after cutting tax in your bank account 1700€ should be there per month or apart from salary your saving should be 1700€??

For example

Total monthly income is 3000€, if tax is 350€ which means 3000-350= 2650€ which is more than 1700€per month

what i mean is it correct from above example.

[Upphew]

As per the website it says 1000€ for adult and 700€ for spouse which means total 1700€ should be freely available after tax.

what is the meaning of 1700€ per month after tax ??

Your account has 0€. You get paid your wages and whatnot. You go to ATM and can withdraw 1700€.

[arkadin]

As per the website, it shows that you should have 1000€ for adult and 700€ for spouse which means total should be 1700€ after tax.

What is the meaning of 1700€ after tax.

1. Does it means you need to have monthly salary after tax 1700€ in hand net ??
2. Does it mean you need to having saving of more than 1700€ always handy(as per statement on website)??
3. Does it mean you need to have saving of 1700€ and salary too 1700€ per month after tax ??

[betelgeuse]

It is quite straightforward. Take your total income including what your employer pays for your house. Deduct the amount of tax you should be paying. The answer is your net income which must be 1700€ a month.

The amount is also listed in the salary certificate. If the OP is not getting one, then Finnish law is not being followed and the employer should be informed about the obligation to provide one.

[onkko]

1. so i have only this point to say that i get the amount more then i get in salary or shown in the salary slip , but the amount of home rent is not added in salary as its paid to my home rent direct

Tax evasion, fine or up to 2 years of jail + calculated losses.

[aditayap]

Hi people please don't scare this guy with tax invasion and penalties. We are not tax expert so no need to speculate. However I do know that some companies pay fringe benefits in form of accommodation etc and some foreign company may have special tax scenario depending upon bilateral treaty (Not paying pension insurance in Finland). Thats perfectly legal.

@ Arkadin, get a letter from your employer clarifying your income and file an appeal.

[rinso]

Hi people please don't scare this guy with tax invasion and penalties.

Yes, good advice. Let him deal with one problem and ignore the other.
Even if the construction is legal, based on the information the OP gave us, the paperwork is not. And the Finnish taxman in not known for his compassion and understanding if he discovers a year later you have not been paying your taxes.

[Honest]

Well, one lady avoided taxes using some tricks which made her avoidance within legal limits. Anyway she was not happily willing to pay her share for the betterment of Finland. she is not in prison rather she is a minister in the government to "serve" this country. You can Google Laura Räty.

What you have done is a stupid mistake, but it's not the the end of the world. Go to vero and talk with them and tell about your mistake and also tell them that you are willing to pay the due amount. When things are agreed with them, make the appeal with the information about your housing supplement.

[Upphew]

Well, one lady avoided taxes using some tricks which made her avoidance within legal limits. Anyway she was not happily willing to pay her share for the betterment of Finland. she is not in prison rather she is a minister in the government to "serve" this country. You can Google Laura Räty.

First the company Laura's company worked for paid 26% taxes. Then Laura's company paid taxes from the capital gains it paid out. So yeah, she certainly dodged some taxes, but how much... and she didn't get pension from that money, so hopefully she did some investing too.

[Honest]

She misused the system, you and she can give whatever justifications but she shouldn't be holding a public office in a country like Finland.

If you steal one thousand or ten thousands you are a stealer. Stealers also pump their money into the economy and bigger thieves even have investments in companies but it doesn't justify their stealing.

[betelgeuse]

Well, one lady avoided taxes using some tricks which made her avoidance within legal limits. Anyway she was not happily willing to pay her share for the betterment of Finland. she is not in prison rather she is a minister in the government to "serve" this country. You can Google Laura Räty.

First the company Laura's company worked for paid 26% taxes. Then Laura's company paid taxes from the capital gains it paid out. So yeah, she certainly dodged some taxes, but how much... and she didn't get pension from that money, so hopefully she did some investing too.

When you are working you have to take either YEL or TYEL depending on share of ownership etc. This means Laura has contributed to the pension system though if she was on YEL, the level does not have to match money you make.

[Upphew]

Well, one lady avoided taxes using some tricks which made her avoidance within legal limits. Anyway she was not happily willing to pay her share for the betterment of Finland. she is not in prison rather she is a minister in the government to "serve" this country. You can Google Laura Räty.

First the company Laura's company worked for paid 26% taxes. Then Laura's company paid taxes from the capital gains it paid out. So yeah, she certainly dodged some taxes, but how much... and she didn't get pension from that money, so hopefully she did some investing too.

When you are working you have to take either YEL or TYEL depending on share of ownership etc. This means Laura has contributed to the pension system though if she was on YEL, the level does not have to match money you make.

True.
Company has profit of 40k, owner takes all the money as dividends, some as wages, almost all as wages... the last one gives most cash to owner.
Source: http://taloushallintoliitto-fi-bin.dire ... sempaa.pdf
So has Laura paid more taxes with her shuffling?!?

[Honest]

So has Laura paid more taxes with her shuffling?!?

It would be really naive to believe this while she is herself accepting that what she did was not right. And from official calculations she managed to save around 10000 euros by using those arrangements.