Sexist Minister now?

[Beep_Boop]

Meh. I care about his policies more than his online sexual life.

[ajdias]

Didn't you see that he already got sidelined?
Even if you only follow Yle in English there's a new piece already for some hours.

I'm more concerned about his pour excuses "Facebook is a poor friend" than the behavior. Bad, bad Facebook :

[ajdias]

Meh. I care about his policies more than his online sexual life.

but that policies do you expect from a man who doesn't have respect for women and already have been minister previously?

None that impact the rights of minorities and women?
lol, you're funny. It's not like he killed babies. Or sent dirt texts to an "exotic dancer" while holding office. Or, gasp, even played with cigars in his secretary, while at his office.

Anyway, he just wants to save face. He won't get away with it, not in the short term, and not in the way that a member of a established party could.

[Beep_Boop]

but that policies do you expect from a man who doesn't have respect for women and already have been minister previously?

As far as I know, he served quite well in his ministerial position. He represented Finland quite well internationally, and he had multiple initiatives that started the development processes in many areas (agriculture, for example). Even though he opposed EU membership, he did nothing to endanger Finland's candidacy (wasn't an EU member yet when he took office) and he even made a lot of efforts in the negotiations to help Finland be on par with EEA standards.

To me, he seems like a man who's capable of putting Finland first. I'm able to separate my feelings about what he did on Facebook from my thoughts about him as a politician.

[Upphew]

but that policies do you expect from a man who doesn't have respect for women and already have been minister previously?

As far as I know, he served quite well in his ministerial position. He represented Finland quite well internationally, and he had multiple initiatives that started the development processes in many areas (agriculture, for example). Even though he opposed EU membership, he did nothing to endanger Finland's candidacy (wasn't an EU member yet when he took office) and he even made a lot of efforts in the negotiations to help Finland be on par with EEA standards.

To me, he seems like a man who's capable of putting Finland first. I'm able to separate my feelings about what he did on Facebook from my thoughts about him as a politician.

Maybe he has started to act that way after years of pent up sexual energies that he got from his previous party Christian Democrats.

[Pursuivant]

When he was a minister he was with Räsänen's lot. Now the scandal isn't quite as biblical

[ajdias]

Btw, IMNSHO this was the sexiest minister

[raskarhu]

Meh. I care about his policies more than his online sexual life.

Absolutely right, Adnan. As Mitterand (former president of France) answered when asked about an extramarital affair/ child: "et alors?" (so what?).

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

This case however says a lot on the PS's double standards, i.e. when a PS member like Hullu-Hallo gets convicted for inciting ethnic hatred: no problemo. When Toimi Kankaanniemi sends explicit messages to unknown women: big problemo.

Makes you think...

[raskarhu]

Meh. I care about his policies more than his online sexual life.

but that policies do you expect from a man who doesn't have respect for women and already have been minister previously?

Didn't you see that he already got sidelined?
Even if you only follow Yle in English there's a new piece already for some hours.

Sideline from the coalition talks only, but he says he still hopes to lead some ministry.

What a moralistic load of bull****. Do you really think he's the only male chauvinistic pig in politics?

[Rip]

when a PS member like Hullu-Hallo gets convicted for inciting ethnic hatred: no problemo.

It's Halla-aho and he was sidelined for while from domestic politics because of that very dubious conviction (while we have had people that were guilty of killing people, abusing political power, undue meddling in affairs of courts, and helping foreign secret police in similar post).

When Toimi Kankaanniemi sends explicit messages to unknown women: big problemo.

He's been largely drawing his own conclusions, his problems made more serious by the contrast between his Facebook activities and his earlier public persona.
(I doubt you could make much of scandal of identical messages around T. Hakkarainen)

[Upphew]

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

Same dude who was trying to ban phone sex lines... this gets kinda close to his policy making.

[ajdias]

"Nussittuna nukkuisit sikeästi" I'm saving that one for the next time I get drunk

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

Same dude who was trying to ban phone sex lines... this gets kinda close to his policy making.

How active was he in trying to get that into law? Was it his initiative or did he only support it?

[Upphew]

"Nussittuna nukkuisit sikeästi" I'm saving that one for the next time I get drunk

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

Same dude who was trying to ban phone sex lines... this gets kinda close to his policy making.

How active was he in trying to get that into law? Was it his initiative or did he only support it?

Only supporter, our Päivi was the head Honcho: https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/Vaski/sivut ... la+16/1996

[Upphew]

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

load of horse****, first we are not discussing his private life here or how he insults/abuses his wife/girlfrind in his bedroom. we are discussing about the script he wrote openly in social media.

Afaik those were private messages, so as open as phone conversations.

[raskarhu]

What a politician does in his private life should not be taken into account when judging his or her policy making.

Same dude who was trying to ban phone sex lines... this gets kinda close to his policy making.

You do have a point there indeed.