Locating a Finnish Citizen's ID Number

ruusu25 · Post by **ruusu25** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:24 pm

A friend of mine, who is a Finnish citizen but has never lived in Finland, needs to find out what his social security number (henkilötunnus) is. How can he do this? He can call the magistrate to find out from there, but he's not sure what information he'll need to have available. He doesn't, for example, know the address of his mother, who was Finnish but is no longer alive. What will he need to prove his identity before Maistraatti will tell him his ID number? Thanks for any advice you can offer

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betelgeuse · Post by **betelgeuse** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:13 pm

ruusu25 wrote:A friend of mine, who is a Finnish citizen but has never lived in Finland, needs to find out what his social security number (henkilötunnus) is. How can he do this? He can call the magistrate to find out from there, but he's not sure what information he'll need to have available. He doesn't, for example, know the address of his mother, who was Finnish but is no longer alive. What will he need to prove his identity before Maistraatti will tell him his ID number? Thanks for any advice you can offer

Why is it needed? Any way this is best solved by just calling them and asking. Given the facts above I wouldn't rule out the possibility that no id number was ever issued (if the move abroad happened before 1971).

williamm · Post by **williamm** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:07 pm

http://www.maistraatti.fi/ on their site you can print out a form to send to the maistraatti for data in the population registry

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:20 pm

Well, calling up the Maistraatti would be a start. Knowing the birthdates (and death) will help.

caster · Post by **caster** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:27 am

visit - - www.vrk.fi - - The ID stuff is explained there - do the math and get your ID as simple as 1+1 Now, if you are a genuine case - you do not even need 1+1, all you need is your passport regardless of issuing authority at the time you visit maistratti.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:26 am

caster wrote:visit - - http://www.vrk.fi - - The ID stuff is explained there - do the math and get your ID as simple as 1+1

Not only this is a bad advice, it's factually incorrect.
Yes, all parts of the henkilötunnus are generated from information available to the individual or information derived from it... except for the yksilönumero, the xxx part "ddmmyy(+|-|A)xxx[A-Z]".
Unless you can go and find all the people who were born on the same day as you, you need Maistraatti to give you that part.

caster · Post by **caster** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:16 pm

adnan wrote:
caster wrote:visit - - http://www.vrk.fi - - The ID stuff is explained there - do the math and get your ID as simple as 1+1
Not only this is a bad advice, it's factually incorrect.
Yes, all parts of the henkilötunnus are generated from information available to the individual or information derived from it... except for the yksilönumero, the xxx part "ddmmyy(+|-|A)xxx[A-Z]".
Unless you can go and find all the people who were born on the same day as you, you need Maistraatti to give you that part.

I do not run an advisory service - nor am in a habit of advising strangers - its an information that is available on www - for those who are good at math.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:20 pm

tummansininen wrote: You can't figure out your xxx part in any way. That part of the number is assigned sequentially, in order - if yours is 220, then you were the 110th baby boy born on that day - the first one is given 002, the second given 004 etc (or if you got your number later on in life, then you were the 110th person registered with that exact birth date).

It is the registration order rule also for those born here and it does not happen in the order the children were born (or at least did not a few years ago). It is claimed kids born currently (or since 1997) don't get numbers below (about) 500. If so, both of my kids (born in Helsinki. I recall vaguely that the hospital in question may have or had had effect on registration order) seem to have rather low numbers considering the time day were born.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:28 pm

caster wrote:
adnan wrote:
caster wrote:I do not run an advisory service - nor am in a habit of advising strangers - its an information that is available on www - for those who are good at math.

You know what's the best way to lose respect? Be proven wrong then deflect and deny.

caster · Post by **caster** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:20 pm

adnan wrote:
you know what's the best way to lose respect? Be proven wrong then deflect and deny

you sounds like a desperate wan-ker with a very big nose.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:51 am

caster wrote:you sounds like a desperate wan-ker with a very big nose.

Wow! How did you know?!

I like how you doubled down on the idiocy. I no longer think you're an onkko alternative account.

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