Cracks in home wall from building "settling"?

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dsi11
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Cracks in home wall from building "settling"?

Post by dsi11 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:07 pm

Hi all,
I went to look at an apartment for sale, in a newer building (2001). The apartment was in otherwise great shape but there was a squiggly line down the wallpaper (looked like a crack in the wall behind it) and the LKV agent said that it was a normal reaction to a newer building "settling".
Is this a bunch of BS?
Have any of you heard such a thing before?
Is it common and not worrying?

If I go further, I will ask for an "asunnon kuntotarkastus" by an independent housing inspector.

Thanks in advance for any advice or info! :)



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Re: Cracks in home wall from building "settling"?

Post by Upphew » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:32 pm

dsi11 wrote:Hi all,
I went to look at an apartment for sale, in a newer building (2001). The apartment was in otherwise great shape but there was a squiggly line down the wallpaper (looked like a crack in the wall behind it) and the LKV agent said that it was a normal reaction to a newer building "settling".
Is this a bunch of BS?
Have any of you heard such a thing before?
Is it common and not worrying?

If I go further, I will ask for an "asunnon kuntotarkastus" by an independent housing inspector.

Thanks in advance for any advice or info! :)
Depends. Yeah, concrete can crack and there is always reason for those. Having small fractures shouldn't be any problem. Large crack in the middle of the wall... I'd like to know why. Behind wallpaper? Do you even know how large the crack is?
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Re: Cracks in home wall from building "settling"?

Post by dsi11 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:45 pm

Upphew wrote: Depends. Yeah, concrete can crack and there is always reason for those. Having small fractures shouldn't be any problem. Large crack in the middle of the wall... I'd like to know why. Behind wallpaper? Do you even know how large the crack is?
Thanks, yeah it was a long (almost ceiling to floor) lumpy and squiggly line down the wallpaper, pushing the wallpaper about 1-2mm outward. It is small enough to not be noticed when walking into the apartment, nor when looking at the picture here (wall on left: http://rcms3-production.s3.amazonaws.co ... 1fcx7y.jpg ), but still noticeable when you get within 2-3 meters.

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Re: Cracks in home wall from building "settling"?

Post by dsi11 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:32 pm

tummansininen wrote:...*snip*
Ask the agent about the crack. I believe that the owner has to own up to damage that they know about. Maybe it's simply papered-over because it's been there for ten years and doesn't look nice? Maybe not. You're right to be asking.

Bear in mind that if the current owner were concerned they would have taken it to the body corporate. If any other apartments also had them, it would be (1) in the minutes of the meeting and (2) probably something arranged, like a survey done on the entire building. Any remedial works would be the responsibility of the entire building.

Although it's disconcerting to know they are there, at least you know you would never be up for the entire repair bill alone. After you buy you would have rights in the body corporate - and other owners would be unlikely to object if you wanted a survey done at that point, because damage can affect everyone, not just one apartment.
Thank you, yes indeed, it was actually the agent who said the crack was a result of "settling" but I will ask for an independent expert opinion.

The agent did send me 5 pdf files, including the housing association's balance sheet, strategy, and also the results of an expert's review of the conditions of the building(s). The review did not mention cracks in the wall of any individual apartment, but it was enlightening to see that they found many small issues throughout the block of buildings (which is apparently quite normal). When a layperson like me just walks around, I thought it looked perfect! :roll:


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