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[FinnGuyHelsinki]

'If you are applying for a residence permit in Finland, you have the right to work as a specialist even before the permit is granted. The requirement is that you are staying in the country legally (you have a valid visa or you do not need one). However, your right to work terminates after three months, at the latest, and sooner, if your visa expires sooner.

Can anyone explain it the better way? What do they mean by visa (I've always had Residence Permit & Passport)?

Since you are _NOT_ staying in the country on a visa, what applies to you are the requirements of legal residence (on other grounds) and the maximum time of three months of working while waiting for the residence permit approval.

_IF_ you would be staying in Finland on a visa, _AND_ would have applied for a work-based residence permit, you could legally stay in the country only until the original expiration date of that visa, i.e. having filed a request for a work-based residence permit does not extend the validity period of an existing visa.

[betelgeuse]

'If you are applying for a residence permit in Finland, you have the right to work as a specialist even before the permit is granted. The requirement is that you are staying in the country legally (you have a valid visa or you do not need one). However, your right to work terminates after three months, at the latest, and sooner, if your visa expires sooner.

Can anyone explain it the better way? What do they mean by visa (I've always had Residence Permit & Passport)?

Since you are _NOT_ staying in the country on a visa, what applies to you are the requirements of legal residence (on other grounds) and the maximum time of three months of working while waiting for the residence permit approval.

None of the quote applies to the OP (not arriving to the country) and the OP should just ignore it.

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/ ... 0301#L5P79

[betelgeuse]

As a non EU student I'm holding a B type RP and I'm gonna apply for an A type RP as a special expert (as I got a job offer from a very reputed corporation in Finland, my work relates to my studies and my salary exceeds 3k).

Follow the rules for working on a student RP until granted the special expert RP. Most likely the RP will be granted so quickly that this is all theoretical.

[FinnGuyHelsinki]

None of the quote applies to the OP (not arriving to the country) and the OP should just ignore it.

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/ ... 0301#L5P79

The quote does apply, it's just that OP meets the criteria for staying in the country.

[FinnGuyHelsinki]

what does that specialists mean? since IT personnel are found in every street in Finland, does it still qualifies as specialist?

I always thought specialists are someone unique like Neurosurgeon, Sibelius kind of Musician, Hakkinen kind of Driver, etc.

It's stated in the original link. The point being to rule out low-paying jobs and work requiring little or no expertise.

[Beep_Boop]

what does that specialists mean? since IT personnel are found in every street in Finland, does it still qualifies as specialist?

Has a degree (bachelor's or master's), and salary exceeds 3k.

I wouldn't really call it "specialist", and it really isn't. It's just a method used by the Finnish authorities to separate queues. If you have a degree and your salary is above 3k, then different labour market conditions apply.
Think of it like separating the citizenship application queue by identity trustworthiness (has valid passport, identity established, etc.).

[sky2]

I wouldn't really call it "specialist", and it really isn't.

...and what you need to be a specialist? Rocket science?
A guy with master degree in CS/IT with specialization in Parallel/Distributed computing is a specialist.
A guy from some applied science university bachelor degree with proven knowledge/experience in Java is a specialist.

[sky2]

By your definition every single person is specialist:
A Carpentar who knows how to make furnitures are also specialist
A Cook who knows how to satisfy their customer's taste is also specialist
A painter who knows how to paint without leaving any stain is also specialist

It can de defined in any way as people have their jobs and all of them cannot do all job. Can a Java specialist brew proper Java Coffee? Programmer is one specialist and Coffee brewer is another specialist. In general terms all are specialist.

Yes, exactly.

Now, the actual term could apply for the few genuine and genius ones who are rare breed like, Alvar Aalto, Jean Sibelius, Mika Hakkinen, etc.

Now, who decides who is genius and who is not? A company who needs it, right? They filter the applicants and pick the best one for the specific job. The rejected ones were not the rare breed, the selected one was. Or will they reject saying you are best candidate for this job but we cant hire you just because you are not Alvar Aalto?