how can I get TV chanels?

opo009 · Post by **opo009** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:57 pm

I got a new tv. and it has DVB T/C with it. how can I get tv problems? I heard from the sells guy that I can connect it with antenna cable. and he said something about two years tv channels and after that I have to go to services carrier. didnt quite remember that. can anyone explain how does this tv channels things work in finland. by the way I'm living in a kerrostalo. never had a tv before.

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Jukka Aho · Post by **Jukka Aho** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:39 pm

opo009 wrote:I got a new tv. and it has DVB T/C with it. how can I get tv problems? I heard from the sells guy that I can connect it with antenna cable. and he said something about two years tv channels and after that I have to go to services carrier. didnt quite remember that. can anyone explain how does this tv channels things work in finland. by the way I'm living in a kerrostalo. never had a tv before.

Just plug one end of the provided RF coaxial cable to the back of the TV, the other end to the wall outlet marked "TV", and let the first-time installation wizard / autotune / channel search function do its job. (Or if it's a previously-owned set or you have already tried something and failed, reset it to back to the factory defaults first.)

If the TV set asks you to set a location/country, choose Finland - this might affect the tuner settings and parameters.

The language choice should not affect anything but the language of the menus.

If the TV wants you to choose between an aerial/antenna/DVB-T/terrestrial mode and cable/DVB-C mode, choose DVB-C - this is the signal format that cable TV companies use. (Apartment buildings typically get their TV signal from the local cable TV company. In some rarer cases, they might have erected a communal antenna on their own, maintaining their own RF distribution system, in which case you would typically choose DVB-T, but DVB-C (cable) is what I would assume you have.)

There are about 12...15 (+some) channels receivable free of charge. That is, you can watch them without needing viewing cards or registration or a subscription of any kind - they're broadcast "in the clear"; unencrypted. This holds true both for cable and the terrestrial broadcasts (receivable via an antenna), although the exact set of channels you get might vary a bit depending on the location and the method.

Then there are also premium channels which are encrypted by default but which can be viewed by purchasing 1) a viewing card, 2) a Conax CAM (a certain type of decoder module with a cardreader slot on it - some devices have that integrated), and 3) a monthly subscription from the company providing the channels.

007 · Post by **007** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:40 pm

opo009 wrote:I got a new tv. and it has DVB T/C with it. how can I get tv problems? I heard from the sells guy that I can connect it with antenna cable. and he said something about two years tv channels and after that I have to go to services carrier. didnt quite remember that. can anyone explain how does this tv channels things work in finland. by the way I'm living in a kerrostalo. never had a tv before.

You will need a cable

which you plug into your TV and a tv socket on the wall

this pic has radio cable plugged into a radio socket... but you don't need to do that, just plug the tv cable where TV is written and into your tv.

after that, you search the channels. it's as simple as that. Depending on the housing, you select either antenna or cable.

Don't know what the salesman was referring to .... paid channels for free for a certain period of time with a purchase of that particular tv?

Jukka Aho · Post by **Jukka Aho** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:15 am

Since you said you have never personally owned a TV set before, a couple of more tips:

The automatic channel search function may find channels you do not normally want to watch - such as religious channels, or the info channel of the local cable TV company. Most TV sets let you hide such channels in one way or the other - either by deleting them altogether, or by setting them to be skipped on the channel list during normal operation as if they weren't there. Skipped channels can usually still be accessed by directly typing in their logical channel number on the numeric keypad of the remote control, if required.
Many TV sets also let you do the opposite: compose lists of "Favorite" channels and maybe even switch to a mode where the TV by default only shows channels from the "Favorites" list. Some TVs even let you create many such lists.
Whether it is more practical and convenient to hide the unwanted channels or collect the wanted channels on a personal "Favorites" list depends on the TV in question. Some TVs have a user interface which clearly favors one method, some the other.
Finnish TV channels make heavy use of subtitling for translations. The subtitles can usually be switched on and off. There is a button on the remote or a channel setting menu option which lets you choose the preferred subtitling language, or switch off the subtitles altogether. The usual language choices for subtitling (on the Finnish channels) are Finnish and Swedish. Usually there are no other languages available.
You might also see the Dutch language on the list, but YLE uses this language choice to provide subtitles for those who are hard of hearing. This might be useful for a language learner, though, since by choosing "Dutch" during a show spoken in Finnish, you might get Finnish subtitles on top.
There may also be audio tracks in multiple languages, selectable by a button on the remote. Finnish channels typically only use this for World Championship or Olympic level sports, to provide commentary in Finnish and Swedish simultaneously, or during international live events, such as the Eurovision Song Contest. Once again, there's this mysterious "Dutch" language soundtrack, which isn't really Dutch but a speech synthesizer reading translations for the blind.
Not all channels have a similar level of subtitling and audio track services. Among the free channels, the channels from the national public broadcaster, YLE, utilize these features the most. But these features are also often found on the premium sports and movie channels.
If you press the GUIDE or EPG button on the remote, you will get the Electronic Program Guide displaying timetable information about the current shows. If you press the INFO button on the remote, you will get a brief description of the ongoing show, and typically also about the show coming up next (although you may need to press some other button for getting that latter information.)
The TEXT button on the remote gives you Teletext, a primitive 1970s-era digital information service. You can switch pages by typing numbers on the numeric keypad, or by using the arrow keys / directional pad on the remote, or by using the P+ and P- channel browsing buttons. YLE and MTV3 maintain their own, distinctive services with news, weather, etc. Some other channels have such a service as well.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:59 am

opo009 wrote:he said something about two years tv channels and after that I have to go to services carrier. didnt quite remember that.

it might also refer to something you get over the internet since most TV's are "smart TV's" and can connect to some web services to show programmes from there. These are services like Katsomo and Ruutu.

TV in finland is a bit complicated compared to other countries. The broadcasters choose different subtitling methods (YLE do it properly with DVB subtitles and the subtitle button works correctly, MTV3 burn them into the picture and people press the subtitle button wondering why it doesn't always work). Blocks of flats sometimes have DVB-T and sometimes DVB-C and there is no way to tell from the socket on the wall. I suppose dealers loved this in the days of things being DVB-T OR DVB-C since some people moving house would have to buy new hardware when they moved house.

I'm still not sure why you get the EPG programme names in swedish when you set the menu language of the digibox to english either. The EPG being a bit too clever for it's own good (probably assuming everybody has chosen either finnish or swedish for their menu language).

opo009 · Post by **opo009** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:40 pm

Thank u guys for the info

FinnGuyHelsinki · Post by **FinnGuyHelsinki** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:24 am

roger_roger wrote:On a sidenote, the TV charge for a person was Maximum 140 Euros per year, my last year tax returns says they charged me 143 Euros. Is it only to me or that 3 Euros is extra tax on TV tax?

The amount is not fixed, it may (and probably will) change annually, 143€ was the maximum for 2014.

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