Are these food items available in Finland?

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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by Rosamunda » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:33 pm

And good meat is expensive, because it should be.
Cheap meat is the product of intensive farming with little respect for animal welfare. It also pushes farmers into debt and poverty. And, globally, it is not sustainable.



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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by Beep_Boop » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:13 pm

I very much agree with that. It all comes down to supply and demand. If there's more demand for fine meat, then more specialized meat shops will open.
The Finnish consumer culture tends to be based on necessity more than luxury. I'm not saying there aren't distinct elements of luxury; I'm rather saying that practicality is more important than luxury to most people.
As for the rest, supermarket meat works.

To be honest, 90% I'm more than happy with the supermarket meat. It's fresh, nutritious , and it tastes good. However, every now and then I like to get some fine steak, or some special cut for a recipe I'm trying. For that, specialty stores exist. I don't think it's that bad here when it comes to that.
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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by Rosamunda » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:30 pm

Eating good meat isn't a "luxury" it's a choice. I'd rather eat a piece of organic pork, or a free-range chicken once a week than HK sausages and Rainbow chicken strips every day. I'd rather not eat meat at all than eat Finnish broileri and ground beef (which is nothing more than a Valio by-product).

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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by Beep_Boop » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:53 pm

Rosamunda wrote:Eating good meat isn't a "luxury" it's a choice.
Perhaps it's a language barrier, so I might not have used the most accurate word. By "luxury", I meant as opposed to necessity. I didn't mean it in the sense of having a a rapper-video-grade yacht.

You either choose the bare minimum that satisfies your needs, or you choose to get some better stuff. That's what I meant by the luxury.
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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by harryc » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:00 pm

"vast majority of people are happy just to pick up a pre-packaged chunk of whatever from the meat section?"

Yeah - and that's why the stores are packed with Saarioinen and Atria crap - and whatever the equivalent is from Lidl. The amazing thing is that a bit of cooking talent and attention to ingredients - and you can whip up excellent and healthy meals even cheaper than the mass processed junk!

The term 'vast majority' says NOTHING to me!

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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by harryc » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:33 pm

Then I suggest you don't ever open a supermarket :lol:
Absolutely nothing to be concerned about there!!!
Although I don't disagree that most of the marinades seem to be identical and the foil-packed meals have no discernible spices apart from salt and pepper.
Marinade = Guaranteed horrible. As for 'spices' in the ready-paks -- I've heard they often dump in some kind of foul garlic and tasteless but hot chili.

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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by Rip » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:55 pm

Rosamunda wrote:Eating good meat isn't a "luxury" it's a choice. I'd rather eat a piece of organic pork, or a free-range chicken once a week than HK sausages and Rainbow chicken strips every day. I'd rather not eat meat at all than eat Finnish broileri and ground beef (which is nothing more than a Valio by-product).
Regarding the last sentence, in so far it is true (and I believe it is not at least completely false), from ethical or environmental point of view you have made a case for the regular ground beef: Unlike the "organic"pig, the cow would not have been grown and killed for the by-product (this would apply of course very much for the chicken skin in the products formerly known as (meatless) "meat balls").

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Re: Are these food items available in Finland?

Post by AldenG » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:09 am

tummansininen wrote:...some of my regular dinner concoctions are actually named Garden Shít and Sloppi but I reckon I could sell the rights to those food manufacturers and make a fortune.
Thot mayt kood goe oever big in Skuttlan dlass.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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