Residence permit cards through mail?

Where to buy? Where can I find? How do I? Getting started.
Post Reply
User avatar
Beep_Boop
Posts: 2087
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:29 pm
Location: Niflheim, Suomi

Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by Beep_Boop » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:30 pm

A couple of weeks ago I applied for a new RP card. Yesterday, I received a letter from the police in a regular envelope. I opened the envelope and found two pieces of paper, one of them had the RP card taped to it and the other had the appeal instructions.
I'm genuinely surprised. When I got my last RP card, a couple of months ago, I received a letter from the police telling to go and pick it up by person. However, this time, they sent the actual card by mail. It was even more odd because the envelope wasn't a secure envelope or a registered delivery; it was a regular envelope to my mailbox. Very careless and insecure.

Has there been a change to the procedure? I don't remember reading anything about on Migri or Polisii.


Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

Residence permit cards through mail?

Sponsor:

Finland Forum Ad-O-Matic
 

User avatar
sky2
Posts: 177
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:40 pm

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by sky2 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:42 pm

I don't know about residence permit but I recently received the ID card by ordinary post and I was surprised too. I thought they would at least send by registered post.

Nimi
Posts: 83
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by Nimi » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:07 pm

adnan wrote:A couple of weeks ago I applied for a new RP card. Yesterday, I received a letter from the police in a regular envelope. I opened the envelope and found two pieces of paper, one of them had the RP card taped to it and the other had the appeal instructions.
I'm genuinely surprised. When I got my last RP card, a couple of months ago, I received a letter from the police telling to go and pick it up by person. However, this time, they sent the actual card by mail. It was even more odd because the envelope wasn't a secure envelope or a registered delivery; it was a regular envelope to my mailbox. Very careless and insecure.

Has there been a change to the procedure? I don't remember reading anything about on Migri or Polisii.
With the high influx of refugees, they will prefer dealing with cases like yours by post rather than the physical appearance, it will save them a lot time to physically treat refugees cases. So don't panic, mails in Finland are more secured than somewhere in Africa or the troubling part of Middle East!

Nimi
Posts: 83
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by Nimi » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:12 pm

I did receive my ID card by post mail during May, 2015 and was also having an option to pick it up from some Kioski closer to me also.

User avatar
Beep_Boop
Posts: 2087
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:29 pm
Location: Niflheim, Suomi

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by Beep_Boop » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:19 am

Nimi wrote:So don't panic, mails in Finland are more secured than somewhere in Africa or the troubling part of Middle East!
Thanks. I really needed someone to teach me about Posti after all these years.

You must be confusing panic with legitimate concern. We already don't send credit cards and the PIN code in the same letter, we don't send passports with regular mail, jesus we don't even send anything worth more than 50 euros with non-registered mail. So why should we send important documents such as RP card and ID card with regular mail?
The other issue is the insecure mail envelop itself. It's not tamper-evident, it doesn't have content-obscuring patterns, and it's paper-thin. It has the 3 textbook bad envelop design attributes.

It's completely reasonable to ask the police to at least use the same security level used when you send a 50-euro item by mail. The costs for registered mail (in Finland) and secure envelopes are quite reasonable, and I have no problem with adding a couple of euros on the card's cost if it's gonna protect my privacy quite a bit more.
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

downhand
Posts: 68
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:20 pm

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by downhand » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:09 pm

adnan wrote:
Nimi wrote:So don't panic, mails in Finland are more secured than somewhere in Africa or the troubling part of Middle East!
Thanks. I really needed someone to teach me about Posti after all these years.

You must be confusing panic with legitimate concern. We already don't send credit cards and the PIN code in the same letter, we don't send passports with regular mail, jesus we don't even send anything worth more than 50 euros with non-registered mail. So why should we send important documents such as RP card and ID card with regular mail?
The other issue is the insecure mail envelop itself. It's not tamper-evident, it doesn't have content-obscuring patterns, and it's paper-thin. It has the 3 textbook bad envelop design attributes.

It's completely reasonable to ask the police to at least use the same security level used when you send a 50-euro item by mail. The costs for registered mail (in Finland) and secure envelopes are quite reasonable, and I have no problem with adding a couple of euros on the card's cost if it's gonna protect my privacy quite a bit more.
Same here, got the ID card through mail, which can even be used as a travel document. I want an explanation for this.

User avatar
Piet
Posts: 567
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:45 pm
Location: Finland

Re: Residence permit cards through mail?

Post by Piet » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:02 pm

It strikes me weird too.
My sister had to get her new passport (send by registered mail) and identify herself before she could get it from the post, the problem was that for identifying she needed the passport because she had to return her old one when applying for a new one Image

Problem was solved by opening the package and use the new passport to identify... only because the postal guy was helpful... just imagine you have the regular drone working there...(and she does not have a driving license so no ID option there).
If god would give us the source code, we could change the world
Image


Post Reply