Yes because the law uses the term exclusively:Lavender wrote:Would that change anything? I guess they can still say I came to Finland because of studies originally...Piet wrote: Get married, problem solved!
Maybe I understand it wrong, but I already was accepted to Kela and they decided I have moved here permanently because of the family ties. The issue is that I was rejected for opintotuki because they said I came here because of studies. So does this apply for opintotuki too? If yes, why do they say I'm here for the studies, even though Kela approved the family ties?betelgeuse wrote:Yes because the law uses the term exclusively:Lavender wrote:Would that change anything? I guess they can still say I came to Finland because of studies originally...Piet wrote: Get married, problem solved!
"A person is not considered to move to Finland to reside in the country permanently if he/she moves to the country exclusively for the purpose of studies."
Since marriage gives another reason it negates the studies.
https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokse ... 931573.pdf
Plah, got confused when one thread is used for multiple different cases. The exclusively term is not in the act on student benefits so the barrier is higher.Lavender wrote: Maybe I understand it wrong, but I already was accepted to Kela and they decided I have moved here permanently because of the family ties. The issue is that I was rejected for opintotuki because they said I came here because of studies. So does this apply for opintotuki too? If yes, why do they say I'm here for the studies, even though Kela approved the family ties?
I understood from your first post that your boyfriend is Finnish, if he is not and he has no permanent residence status, you are in bad luck... if he has permanent status or he is Finnish, you will get right to permanent status too when married plus all the benefits.Lavender wrote:Would that change anything? I guess they can still say I came to Finland because of studies originally...Piet wrote:Get married, problem solved!Lavender wrote:Well not really, we lived in my home country in 2014, then he had to come back because his own studies, and I followed him. I've been living in Finland since January 2015, registered at poliisi in March 2015, applied for school in May 2015 and started school in September 2015. But yeah, I know the procedures for Kela and student benefits are different, have to send an appeal then and hope for the best.
he knows best
Yeah, boyfriend is Finnish and I talked to the officer at Kela and they said to fill in the complaint and see what happens. But my school has already started and to finish my studies is definitely my priority. Also my major is actually Finnish so I guess there wouldn't be much use of the integration course anyway. But I heard that if I don't get opintotuki, I can apply for the social security money even though I'm a student. I know it applies for Finns, don't know about foreigners though.Piet wrote:
I understood from your first post that your boyfriend is Finnish, if he is not and he has no permanent residence status, you are in bad luck... if he has permanent status or he is Finnish, you will get right to permanent status too when married plus all the benefits.
sorry did not refresh for a while....
Anyway,if you already have a permanent residence status, and you have been accepted by the school, there would be no reason for kela to refuse the opintotuki, it is less than unemployment benefits.
A way to circumvent this problem, would be to put a hold on your planned school and apply for unemployment benefits first, than apply for a foreigner integration course learning Finnish language.
After about 2 years being unemployed you can study for about 2 years with keeping your unemployment benefits. So after 4 years you would be able to get the Finnish passport and then there is no hassle any-more with anything...just the same !"#¤% as every other Finn has to deal with..
but to be sure ask adnan...
In this case getting married will change the reason to stay in Finland for study to family ties with a permanent status, than you will have the same rights as Finns for all tuki related matters. So marriage will actually solve all you immigration related problems (especially because you already lived together before moving to Finland, this makes it very difficult for kela or immigration to accuse you from getting married for a permanent residence permit on purpose like it is some kind of deal).Lavender wrote: Yeah, boyfriend is Finnish and I talked to the officer at Kela and they said to fill in the complaint and see what happens. But my school has already started and to finish my studies is definitely my priority. Also my major is actually Finnish so I guess there wouldn't be much use of the integration course anyway. But I heard that if I don't get opintotuki, I can apply for the social security money even though I'm a student. I know it applies for Finns, don't know about foreigners though.
