Piet wrote:Apparently Adnan reads my remark "getting a residence permit" in my first post, as "getting a
permanent residence permit"... here lays the foundation of his confusion about my posts... it seems he also needs a little sleep now and then
And even when I would have said that in the first post, then still you will get it after 4 years as he said too! so again very semantic here....
Ok I will do the work of listing the problems in your initial post. I will not cross reference with the later posts in this thread because of the work involved.
Piet wrote:
No speeding up, First get married!!! after that all goes quick, can be done in 1 day (not the decisions but all the appointments
)
if the "boyfriend / husband to be" is Finnish or has a permanent residence permit.
The husband does not need to have a permanent residence permit. A family permit can be given to even family members of temporary residence permit holders. The main thing is that the income requirement is satisfied. However, Kela access will not be available necessarily on a temporary permit.
Piet wrote:
1) As soon as you are married with a Finn or someone with a permanent residence permit, take the papers from "magistraati" and go to the police office to register you are living with your husband in Finland and you will automatically (get) have a residence permit.
The fact that you are living together is a matter for the population register. This update will be done through posti or maistraatti. The application for residence permit at the police is not automatic for anyone. If the husband is Finnish, it's much easier because the income requirement is waived.
At the police one should also apply for the identity card because it makes dealing with banks easier.
Piet wrote:
2) After this, go immediately to Kela and register there, mention that you are pregnant,
At 5 weeks the pregnancy has no relevance for the initial application to be covered by Kela.
Piet wrote:
3) then go to TE.office and register as a job seeker, mention that you are pregnant.
at TE office mentioning that you are pregnant can go against you as they want to see that people are looking for full time employment.
Piet wrote:
4) than go back to Kela to request unemployment benefits (you will not get them immediately but better be quick with requesting them).
As a note for 2-4 with the identity card it's possible to identify online. However, I have seen the TE-keskus online service refuse to work for non EU citizens.
Piet wrote:
When you and your husband are in immediate financial need, go together to the social office to request financial support there until all other regular benefits are sorted out.
Be (or at least act) gratefull for their help and don't hesitate to ask again if you do not understand something, be polite and understanding...this will get you quicker where you want to be with the help you need.
This is correct.
Piet wrote:
5)As soon as you get your kela (card) number, make an appointment with neuvola (Finnish institute most similar with consultation bureau or pregnancy / child healthcare centre)
Reasonable but the first visit is some weeks later in the pregnancy:
http://www.terveyskirjasto.fi/terveyski ... i=dlk00885
"Ensimmäinen lääkärintarkastus 10-18 raskausviikolla"
Piet wrote:
And than all will go as it should, remember to change your job seeking status later in your pregancy to "motherhood leave" if this doesn't go automatically.
For more info. see infopankki.fi a great recource for information for foreigners.
http://www.kela.fi/web/en/maternal-leave
The leave can only be started closer to estimated delivery date: "Maternity leave starts before the child's estimated date of delivery. You start your maternity leave at least 30 working days (about 5 weeks) before the estimated date of delivery. If you wish, you can start maternity leave earlier, starting 50 working days (just over 2 months) before the estimated date of delivery at the earliest. "
Piet wrote:
Congratulations, you just won the lottery. (
if the father is Finnish, after birth the child will be too, this means you can stay in Finland indefinitely, even if you divorce your Finnish husband next year, as long as you keep taking care of the child as the mother....telling you just in case the Father might want to blackmail you in the future when you get your second or third big argument and he threatens to divorce you so you have to leave the country... that is not true
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adnan already explained the error here. You can loose custody even if you have visitation rights. Only a guardian can get a residence permit.
Piet wrote:
However
If your boyfriend / husband to be is not Finnish and does not have a permanent residence permit, I am afraid you are out of luck and you probably are not even allowed to stay in Finland unless your (by then) husband his income is higher than the required minimum and he is providing for all your financial needs, no health insurance, no unemployment benefits etc...
This repeats the error that income requirement would not apply to family members of permanent residence permit holders. The part about no health insurance or unemployment benefits is also wrong. They are available to, for example, family members of A permit holders.
Then one final correction for the last post:
Piet wrote:
2 go to the police and do all the resident related paperwork (based on family ties! and don't forget the Finnish social security number...tickbox on the form if I remember correctly)
It's a personal identity code. It was called social security number last time in the 70s.
5 weeks). I will receive some documents (proving that im single, requirement for the marriage licence) next week, so we can have a soon as possible wedding.
