minimum wage

[aminlabbafi]

Hello everyone
I have a question on minimum wages in Finland. My wife has received a job offer to work in a barbershop. Should the employer pay the minimum wage set by collective bargaining law? if the employer fails to pay that amount of money is it punishable by law?

[betelgeuse]

No, she will receive what is written in the job contract. If the job contract says she'll receive 2e/hour then that's what she gets. I have seen some jobs like this barber shops, tele sales, etc set the minimal wage rate as low as possible and add the pay based on customer served. For instance, she may get just 2e/hour for being in barber shop and 5e per customer served. If she serves 3 customers in one hour then her pay is 17e/hour and if no customer comes then its 2e the bare minimal. This kind of business is well practised in Finland.

But if she has signed a contract which says she'll be paid based on the collective bargaining and no mention of the hourly wages then you have to check the relevant trade union about the minimal wage for the profession.

This is all bogus and should be ignored. The Employment Contracts Act says:

The employer shall observe at least the provisions of a national collective agreement considered representative in the sector in question (generally applicable collective agreement) on the terms and working conditions of the employment relationship that concern the work the employee performs or nearest comparable work.

Any term of an employment contract that is in conflict with an equivalent term in the generally applicable collective agreement is null and void, and the equivalent provision in the generally applicable collective agreement shall be observed instead.

http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/kaannokset ... 010055.pdf

The relevant collective agreement does allow pay based on sales. However, it comes with a minimum monthly pay that is much larger than the 2e/hour quoted.

http://kampanjapalvelu.fi/epam/hates/index.aspx

Hello everyone
I have a question on minimum wages in Finland. My wife has received a job offer to work in a barbershop. Should the employer pay the minimum wage set by collective bargaining law? if the employer fails to pay that amount of money is it punishable by law?

The collective bargaining agreement is universally binding for barbershops. The employer must pay the minimum. If they don't, the employee can collect on the difference. Probably also criminally punishable but I have no detailed knowledge about that.

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/viranomaiset/t ... /2002/1604

[Pursuivant]

The question here is:
Is the "job",
a) real job as in paid hours as 'employee'
b) renting a chair in a salon as 'entrepeneur'

a) is minimum wage, b) is hahahahaha - money?

[betelgeuse]

The question here is:
Is the "job",
a) real job as in paid hours as 'employee'
b) renting a chair in a salon as 'entrepeneur'

This thread is titled minimum wage and the term wage does not apply to the latter. However, I wouldn't be surprised if people were misusing the term. For b) pretty much all bets are off.

[betelgeuse]

In Barber shops these days the Real job with salary is pretty hard. There are lots who offer the job as I said above with very low hourly rate and based on customers served.

You are calling tomatoes apples. It can not legally be a job. It could only be a contract between businesses.

I know a girl who used to work for Buusteri (http://buusteri.fi/) and her salary in one month was 80 euros (I guess I don't have to explain this why). We drank together the day she received her salary (also her last day of job) and were talking about the job, people she had to call and sell, characters, pay, etc. There are jobs with !"#¤% pays and sick contracts even in Finland, its just a matter of realizing it. I doubt if anyone have ever sued those Buusteri, Mediapex kinda tele-marketing company over basic minimal wage.

Different field, different rules. There's no generally applicable collective agreement for tele marketing. If there's no agreement, there's no mandatory fixed minimum wage either.

[asanda]

Basically it depends if she has done the Finnish Parturi-kampaamo näyttötutkinto or not. Basically this is the Finnish hairdressers and barbers exam, and if she has done it and passed it then they have to pay her minimum wage, otherwise if she does not have this then they will try to pay her less. Presuming because they think she is not a fully qualified barber or something.


I am currently studying to be a hairdresser in Finland, so if you want more information I can try to find out from my school.

[Oho]

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