Oh no Brexit!

[bm50]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

[AldenG]

Now?

Nothing for several years at least, if ever.

[rinso]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

You will be citizen of a 3rd world country like the US who will need a residence permit instead of the free movement.
No more luxury EU treatment.
And as Alden said it will take a couple of years.

[DMC]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

There is already a thread on this: How Brexit can affect my future in Finland?

[bm50]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

You will be citizen of a 3rd world country like the US who will need a residence permit instead of the free movement.
No more luxury EU treatment.
And as Alden said it will take a couple of years.

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country? You compare them to African countries? The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world! Compared to that I would say Finland is a third world country!

[bm50]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

There is already a thread on this: How Brexit can affect my future in Finland?

Yes there is but wrong place should be under Living in Finland!

[Rip]

You will be citizen of a 3rd world country like the US who will need a residence permit instead of the free movement.

There aren't too many UK citizens here on the streets or circling the country making their living by begging or theft. Most of them have decent reason under which a residence permit wouldn't have been that much harder to get than a registration.

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country?

US of course is pretty young. UK/England? Before time of Julius Caesar or so perhaps?

As I stated in the other thread, I see no reason to believe that those UK citizens living under a permanent status would not their get their residency rights swapped to pretty much equivalent residence permit. Those that have learnt the language sufficiently or think they'd be able now of course have a clearer reason to pick the second nationality.

[bm50]

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country? You compare them to African countries? The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world! Compared to that I would say Finland is a third world country!

Not for very long now... Africans are not slave anymore, so no more stealing Diamond, Gold, Coil, Steel, Oil and free labour. Indians, Ozzies and Canadians don't give a sh.it about queen anymore. Go back to your fishing days? ha, you've even lost those skills long ago and been importing fish from Norway and Potato from Spain for fish and chips. When the Scots and Irish shows middle finger, you are nothing more than 3rd world soon.

I think you must be crazy! We lost our fishing industry because of the EU just ask a British fisherman! No we have own fish and potatoes for our good fish and chips thank you! Obvious you are not British and never been there all our coastal towns have fresh locally caught fresh fish and we still have farms you know that grow fresh vegetables! You must live in a fantasy world! GB does not need the EU but they need GB as we are their biggest customer Yes and the commonwealth is as strong as ever with lots of trade without the EU!

[Rosamunda]

We lost our fishing industry because of the EU

My take on the fishing industry is that the EU quotas actually saved European stocks from imminent demise. Otherwise, it would have been game over a long time ago. Indeed, it is rather worrying that UK fishermen will now stick up a middle finger to EU quotas adversely affecting the fragile balance.

The reason the UK is a "big customer" for other EU countries is that it needs large quantities of cheap food that it cannot produce itself. The UK imports almost£9bn of fruit and veg. Overall 27% of food consumed in the UK comes from the EU (and approx 54% is homegrown).

UK food exports amount to £0.9bn of which 70% goes to the EU.

Some numbers here:
http://qz.com/716156/the-british-import ... a-problem/

The problem with importing food from the Commonwealth - lamb from NZ etc - is that all those countries are so far away. So much for eating local. It is not really a sustainable model.

[Pursuivant]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

[Pursuivant]

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country? You compare them to African countries?

Its the airport/police/migri queues
1.st Nordic (treated 1:1 to Finns)
2.nd EEA
3.rd The Rest

[leisl]

Brexit! What will happen to us poor Brits in Finland now?

You will be citizen of a 3rd world country like the US who will need a residence permit instead of the free movement.

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country? The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world!

Not anymore. Overtaken by France this week.

We lost our fishing industry because of the EU

My take on the fishing industry is that the EU quotas actually saved European stocks from imminent demise.

This is my understanding too. The ones complaining that they can't fish more of their own stock will now merrily destroy their own industries through over-fishing, without the EU's interference.

Like so many things in the UK, actual knowledge of environmental issues is looked down on with disdain by a lot of people. It is the same phenomenon that led so many people to outright reject the view of many, many experts warning that the UK would suffer terrible financial losses by leaving. The "we don't like experts" thing. I don't know if it's jealousy of the education levels of the haves vs the have-nots, or just a cultural habit.

[Beep_Boop]

Since when has the US and UK ever been a third world country? You compare them to African countries? The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world! Compared to that I would say Finland is a third world country!

*sigh* rinso's intention is '3rd country'. It's a term used for countries that aren't EU/EEA countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_country_national

It's a simple wordplay joke by rinso. It's actually quite funny.

[Meresjeva]

On the practical side: how should a Brit act to secure permanent residency now?
Before, you just came to Finland, registered on with the police and moved into your place.
What now?

[Rip]

On the practical side: how should a Brit act to secure permanent residency now?
Before, you just came to Finland, registered on with the police and moved into your place.
What now?

You can't really tell at this point. If UK negotiates a similar deal as Norway, Iceland and Switzerland have then nothing really would need to change (citizens of those countries are handled by the same parts of the Finnish Aliens Act than actual EU citizens)

If not, my assumption would be that the permanent status for those that have been here 4+ years would be given by specific legislation, based on mutual deal to agreed by UK and the other member states. Those that recently arrived here would probably get regular A or B permit that would need to be extended like citizens of other non-EU/EEA countries would need to. But for all of this there actually has to be some agreement between UK and EU member states.

One of course can also apply for citizenship. The terms of it won't change, the benefits from it for UK citizens would be significantly increased if UK stops being a EU/EEA country.