Neighbor with demoniacal kid

jordana1987 · Post by **jordana1987** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:57 pm

Hi guys, please I need your precious help in writing a letter (in Finnish) to put under my neighbors doors due to a woman with her child who are living in the first floor, and her kid is making such an annoying noise every single day by crying and screaming sooooo loudly!! I am sure that even my other neighbors are tired to listen to that noise every single day at every single hour..that's why I was thinking to write a warning letter to put under her door, but I need your help because I need to write it in Finnish, so I can send a copy to all my other neighbors to collect the signatures.
Please guys I really need your help.
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PJG · Post by **PJG** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:10 pm

Demonic kid? Because it's crying? Intolerant much?

Collecting signatures to complain to a mother that her child is crying is TERRIBLE way to handle the situation. You want to bully a mother who has a possibly sick or teething child to take care of, yeah? Bad idea.

Kids screaming and babies crying drive me crazy but that's just something we have to accept comes along with living in spaces with babies and infants in ear-shot.

If it's as bad as you say it is, contact the house manager/caretaker and ask them to look into it, but don't expect a miracle.

I recommend Macks ear-plugs until then.

jordana1987 · Post by **jordana1987** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:32 pm

I agree that is totally normal to hear a child crying and sometimes screaming but believe me..that one is incredible. Totally!!! It gets out my nerfs. I know is a simply child but I don't tolerate rudeness. So that's why I was thinkng to complain about it by collecting neighbors signatures. His mom doesn't even know how too look after her kid...C'mon!!!! And if you don't want to help me is ok. I can find for sure someone else. Thanks anyway );

PJG · Post by **PJG** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:47 pm

You've complained about neighbours making noise before....and sending letters to them....

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=92389

As previously suggested on that thread, and again by me now, get earplugs.

Earplugs block out the noise of other people doing normal things in life, like people having sex, babies crying, people walking around in their apartments.

Letters don't.

Buy earplugs or find an apartment with better sound proofing. Those are the things that will work, because nobody can silence a crying baby with the flick of a switch and NOBODY will avoid having sex just because you have work early the next morning.

These WILL work. Or you can ignore everyone and be a grumpy crank, obsessed with making yourself a victim because other people do perfectly normal things and that affects you:

http://korvatulpat.fi/macks-pillow-soft ... ulpat.html

AldenG · Post by **AldenG** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:57 pm

That will not end well for you.

But if you know children and you are certain this is outside all norms, you should contact the child welfare agency. They have the expertise and the authority to look into the situation and to intervene with help or other action if there is truly something wrong. If they open an investigation, it will include interviewing neighbors; there is no need for you to contact them yourself. You should have multiple sound recordings when you contact the agency, documented with time of day. But you must frame your contact as concern that the child is abused or that a serious medical/developmental problem is being neglected. Presenting it as your own annoyance will, again, backfire on you and you may end up leaving.

jordana1987 · Post by **jordana1987** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:04 pm

Wait..wait..guys!!! I didn't write that post because I ama psychopathe peron...is it clear??? You cannot even imagine how annoying that child!!! But no problem. If you won't help me I will manage. And PLEAAAAAASE stop by saying that I should buy earplugs!!!! That's so stupid answer, so you can take it for you

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:13 pm

I personally think all babies are annoying little pricks that should be with their parents in the woods on a long trip until they grow out of the "demonic crying" phase.
But that doesn't change the reality of life: A lot of people like kids, especially their own kids. If you complain, you'll be viewed as the as*hole. This is just how it is in Finland (and most parts of the world). It's on you, 100% of the time, to put up with loud neighbours' kids. Nothing will work.
It's not like you'll tell the parents and they'll think "Aaaah, okay, so that's how we deal with the kids. Alright, thank you lovely neighbour, we'll apply your method".

I second the ear plug solution.

PJG · Post by **PJG** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:21 pm

jordana1987 wrote:Wait..wait..guys!!! I didn't write that post because I ama psychopathe peron...is it clear??? You cannot even imagine how annoying that child!!! But no problem. If you won't help me I will manage. And PLEAAAAAASE stop by saying that I should buy earplugs!!!! That's so stupid answer, so you can take it for you

You want to keep writing letters because you think that will somehow make many of your neighbours become silent?

So, try something new. Buy some earplugs.

Or send them a letter, signed with your full name, containing this polite and simple text:

"Minun täytyy työskennellä aikaisin joka päivä. Etsi tapa pitää lapsesi rauhallinen tai minä lähetän mörkö tuoda hiljaisuus."

leisl · Post by **leisl** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:34 pm

Exactly what I thought - Autistic. You're about to embarrass yourself and make the mother feel terrible.

Basically you're probably just an ignorant jerk. Unless you are talking to her with the aim of OFFERING SOME KIND OF ASSISTANCE, don't. All your other neighbours can hear the kid and they haven't sent her a letter - because they know basic decency and you do not.

If you don't like communal living, buy an omakotitalo or move to a deserted island. Apartments are obviously not for you.

AldenG · Post by **AldenG** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:12 am

Why is it not the mother who should move somewhere where one child's extreme difficulties will not make a building uninhabitable for a dozen other people?

I know that in Sweden at least at the time I lived there, a mother with a special-needs child could receive help to cope with the difficulties of bringing up an autistic child, including help to find and secure a suitable home in a situation like this.

If families above, below, and on either side move out or there is high turnover, the landlord is just going to intervene.

The thought that the reasonable solution is for four to six other families to use ear plugs whenever at home . . . that's . . .
peculiarly Finnish, I suppose.

PJG · Post by **PJG** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:39 am

AldenG wrote:Why is it not the mother who should move somewhere where one child's extreme difficulties will not make a building uninhabitable for a dozen other people?

I know that in Sweden at least at the time I lived there, a mother with a special-needs child could receive help to cope with the difficulties of bringing up an autistic child, including help to find and secure a suitable home in a situation like this.

If families above, below, and on either side move out or there is high turnover, the landlord is just going to intervene.

The thought that the reasonable solution is for four to six other families to use ear plugs whenever at home . . . that's . . .
peculiarly Finnish, I suppose.

The OP has complained about people walking in their apartments, having sex in their apartments and now is complaining about a baby crying.

I don't know where the Autistic element came from. It was a speculation as far as I can tell.

In any case, the OP seems to like sending letters of complaint directly to other tenants instead of speaking with the house manager, which would be the logical step to take.

I can't help but picture this kind of silliness:

Seriously, why not just raise it with the house manager and get some earplugs so you get some sleep OP? Your letter will go straight into the bin and that won't get you a good night rest, will it?

jordana1987 · Post by **jordana1987** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:47 am

OMG guys, you really make me laughing. Who said that the kids had some autistic problems? And who said I am intolerant face to baby crying??? Relax guys. I was just asking to complain about the situation not because I am an insane person but just because actually my apartment has some strange neighbors ". That is the only reason who makes me complaining about things all the time. For those people who advise me to buy ear plugs, I am quite sure they belong to those people who don't even know the meaning of respecting neighbors. Anyway...I think is useless talking to those who just don't want to understand..indeed I would like to know how to cancel this post cause I really don't want to fight with some stupid people.. Especially if advices come from Finnish ones.

wolf80 · Post by **wolf80** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:14 am

Taking into account your post complaining about sex noises, which is still quite vivid in my memory, and now this post I can honestly only tell you to go and live alone. You are not a person to live in an apartment building with other people. With other people in general You should have a little house somewhere deep in the woods without any neighbors in earshot. Because you will always find something that annoys you. There will always be some noise. And you can't stand any noise it seems.

If everybody else seems to be a problem, then probably you are the problem!

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:40 am

jordana1987 wrote:I really don't want to fight with some stupid people

Oh my god, you guys!! I'm such a nice person, you guys!!! I'm not insane!! I'm very sane and nice!!! GUUUUYSSS!!! PLEASE GUYS!!! I'M NICCCEEE!!

Oombongo · Post by **Oombongo** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:03 am

You probably got child worshiping parents as neighbors

Doubt anything can help in this situation, unless the kid is abused by parents.

Anyway, something for Friday

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