Specialist work permit and unemployment

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sam_001
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Specialist work permit and unemployment

Post by sam_001 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:34 am

A friend of mine is on a specialist work permit and has been laid off. Does he have a risk of being deported if he does not get a job soon? He currently has a four years A type work permit that expires in 2020\

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Re: Specialist work permit and unemployment

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:10 pm

roger_roger wrote:
sam_001 wrote:A friend of mine is on a specialist work permit and has been laid off. Does he have a risk of being deported if he does not get a job soon? He currently has a four years A type work permit that expires in 2020\

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I think so. Again I get confused with this specialist thing, but if the RP has employer's name and employer informs migri about the termination of the contract, then things might lead to deportation unless your friend finds another job.
It can but it does not happen soon since deportation can be appealed. Processing appeals is currently quite backlogged. It is certain that he needs a job (or other satisfy other category) when the permit expires.

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Re: Specialist work permit and unemployment

Post by sam_001 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:35 pm

Doesn't the specialist work permit mean that the work permit is not depending on employer but he can work for any employer within that field? Has this rule recently changed or was it like that always? Another person I know was not working for almost one year and he did not get any notice from immigration. He was also on specialist work permit

Few years ago, I got a work permit of specialist type even though my company was sponsoring everything. When I applied for another job, my employer wanted to cancel my work permit but the immigration told them that my work permit was specialist and not employer based so they could not cancel my work permit

Now recently, I have been hearing that employer has to inform immigration when a job is terminated and that leads to cancellation of visa. Has there been any changed to the policies recently?

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Re: Specialist work permit and unemployment

Post by Beep_Boop » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:22 pm

sam_001 wrote:Doesn't the specialist work permit mean that the work permit is not depending on employer but he can work for any employer within that field?
This is correct. RP linked to a specific employer is not common at all. In all my life in Finland and contact with foreigners I've seen it only in case, and it was a very special case with very special circumstances.
It's safe to assume if your friend has specialist RP, then he isn't tied to a specific employer, but he's tied to jobs that fits the specialist category.
sam_001 wrote:Another person I know was not working for almost one year and he did not get any notice from immigration. He was also on specialist work permit
This person and his employer didn't follow the guidelines by Migri. His situation has changed and he purposefully neglected to inform the police. Same applies to his employer.
What I'm unsure about is the legal consequences of not informing Migri/police. Is there any? I don't know. They tell you you should inform of changes, but what happens if you don't?
sam_001 wrote:my employer wanted to cancel my work permit but the immigration told them that my work permit was specialist and not employer based so they could not cancel my work permit
Barring the case mentioned above, employer cannot "cancel your work permit". What they can do is contact the police and tell them your work contract is over. In this case, now it's up to the police to decide. Usually, if you get a job in a short period of time after your previous one is over, then nothing happens.
sam_001 wrote:Now recently, I have been hearing that employer has to inform immigration when a job is terminated and that leads to cancellation of visa. Has there been any changed to the policies recently?
This has always been the case. You are required to tell Migri/police about changes in the situation upon which your RP is granted. Same goes for your employer, but again I don't know about the legal consequences. Maybe a fine?
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

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Re: Specialist work permit and unemployment

Post by sam_001 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:37 pm

Beep_Boop wrote: This person and his employer didn't follow the guidelines by Migri. His situation has changed and he purposefully neglected to inform the police. Same applies to his employer.
What I'm unsure about is the legal consequences of not informing Migri/police. Is there any? I don't know. They tell you you should inform of changes, but what happens if you don't?
He told that he had registered with the unemployment office but he did not inform any other office. He does not know if his employer informed the immigration. He was receiving around 600 euros a month from the unemployment and was spending from his savings. He was lucky enough to also get a new RP for his new born baby while still unemployed. He mentioned in his child's RP application that the father is unemployed. His spouse was also a dependent and not an EU citizen


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