roger_roger wrote:leisl wrote:Because you might get a job interview one day with the Finnish name.
Getting a real job and being rejected from interview is different thing.
I've no idea what your interpretation of "real job" is, but since I specifically mentioned people without quals, I'm guessing you're just looking down on someone who washes dishes? Plenty of people are keen to do that work and still can't get it due to disadvantages.
roger_roger wrote:I do not have Muslim name neither Finnish one and I have got fair share of rejection from jobs, but I believe that was more due to my qualification not being considered or I was not qualified for the job. Once I have gathered experience and knowledge I've never looked back. I lost one of my part-time job at the end of June and by 15th of July I've already signed contract with another company for part-time job (on top of my regular full-time job).
So you've done well and that's admirable. Consider the fact though that you're also male, and I assume, white, and probably not displaying anything that makes you look like a particular religion. You've overcome several things right there. Not to discount your hard work, but you had it easier than others. I too have it easier than some (Finnish first name, Finnish surname, and I "look Finnish" and "dress secular") and it's still blisteringly difficult to find work out there for a lot of people.
roger_roger wrote:you may get to the interview with Finnish name but as when they know its just to land the interview you are not just rejected but your chapter may be closed in the company for future too. This country has very small population and such information passes within bosses, managers, supervisors on a drunk night joke spreading your name on the blacklists of other companies too.
Again, for unqualified work, this is absolutely not a thing. You think anyone gives a stuff about some random person they rejected for a job, enough to go share their name with all the other recruiters? No. If it's happening in highly-qualified circles, what exactly do you think they're saying? "Hey mate, don't employ Jussi Erilainen, he came in today and OMG he's not even a Finn, he's a darkie with a turban on his head!" Um, no. They do not do this. If they are blacklisting someone it's for genuine misrepresentation of their SKILLS, and it's only in certain circles. Take it from a recruiter, all I ever got "no" from was when an employer happened to know they had a criminal record or had heard from a fellow employer that the guy couldn't do the job.
roger_roger wrote:I know and have seen all the Mohammeds, Alis or Atifs have landed jobs in Finland with their original names and their qualification. Anyone should be proud of their name and origin not ashamed.
I said nothing about shame. I advocate that everyone, regardless of who they are, should give themselves the best possible chance at firstly getting an interview, and secondly at getting that job. Of course it's still "possible" to get work without a Finnish name if you have quals. But you're still at a disadvantage compared with the obviously-Finnish person also applying. If you have several disadvantages, the usual end-result is no interview. So people really should be minimising every item that they can.
There are a lot of "politically-incorrect" things that people can help themselves by doing. For example a woman should NOT mention she is pregnant or planning children soon, even though it's illegal to reject her for that reason. Why? Because it will reduce her chances. A man should NOT say he will be doing his military service next year. A foreigner should insert into the conversation things like they've bought a home here, their partner works here, their partner is Finnish or they have themselves gained Finnish citizenship. That they intend to build a life here in Finland.
It makes no difference if people find these things unpalatable or they seem "wrong" or unnecessary. The fact is that bosses are human and they don't recruit by skill alone, but by all sorts of prejudices. Your task at interview is to convince the person you are the right fit for the job and that involves allaying any fears/prejudices they have, and by dog, use any trick that you have if it helps number ONE. So if your name gets you that interview... do it. If the interview's successful, you can just quietly tell them you've decided to go by Atefeh after all, on your first day!