Driving On Private Land

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harryc
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Driving On Private Land

Post by harryc » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:52 am

Where in heck does someone think they have the 'right' to drive on private land?

There seems to be an implication here that 'checking' the land registry MIGHT show ssomething allowing it - or is this just poor writing/editing from YLE? It would seem to me that one NEVER has such a right - unless some health emergency (rescuing someone, etc.). Agreement, of course, is always possible.

Another issue is 'no entry' signs and blocked roads. If somebody does own the land, says the association, they can block the road--but you can check that from the land registry and try to reach an agreement on driving onto the property. - YLE

Missing from the article is the comment that foraging can only be for own consumption (not to be sold)

I'm not so sure about the 'walking across private land' bit - I'm pretty sure it's to be a good distance away from any dwellings.

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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by Rip » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:20 pm

harryc wrote: Another issue is 'no entry' signs and blocked roads. If somebody does own the land, says the association, they can block the road--but you can check that from the land registry and try to reach an agreement on driving onto the property. - YLE
They are at least trying to say that you can try to contact the owner (the land register tells that) and acquire a permission.
As such non-regular usage of private roads with cars is not banned
Missing from the article is the comment that foraging can only be for own consumption (not to be sold)
I'm not sure what you mean, but picking wild berries certainly is allowed also for commercial purposes

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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by Upphew » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:28 pm

harryc wrote:Where in heck does someone think they have the 'right' to drive on private land?

There seems to be an implication here that 'checking' the land registry MIGHT show ssomething allowing it - or is this just poor writing/editing from YLE? It would seem to me that one NEVER has such a right - unless some health emergency (rescuing someone, etc.). Agreement, of course, is always possible.

Another issue is 'no entry' signs and blocked roads. If somebody does own the land, says the association, they can block the road--but you can check that from the land registry and try to reach an agreement on driving onto the property. - YLE

Missing from the article is the comment that foraging can only be for own consumption (not to be sold)

I'm not so sure about the 'walking across private land' bit - I'm pretty sure it's to be a good distance away from any dwellings.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/tuesdays_papers_g ... nt/9162609
Unless the private road is really private, eg. locked gate and never received public money, then one is allowed to occasionally use it. And using the road by walking, skiing or riding it with bike or horse is always permitted (everyman's right).

You can pick non cultivated berries or mushrooms and do whatever you want with them, consume them yourself or sell.

Also the good distance was defined as in not "immediate vicinity" of yard iirc.
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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by harryc » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:54 pm

I'm not sure what you mean, but picking wild berries certainly is allowed also for commercial purposes
So a busload of Thais can come in and collect lingonberries at 1€ a kg and the 'slave owner' can sell to S-Market? Nice.

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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by betelgeuse » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:07 pm

harryc wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean, but picking wild berries certainly is allowed also for commercial purposes
So a busload of Thais can come in and collect lingonberries at 1€ a kg and the 'slave owner' can sell to S-Market? Nice.
Yes but in this case the "slave owner" must respect Finnish employment laws.

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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by harryc » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:25 pm

Yes but in this case the "slave owner" must respect Finnish employment laws.
Why would they do that? They haven't up till now.

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Re: Driving On Private Land

Post by Upphew » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:33 pm

harryc wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean, but picking wild berries certainly is allowed also for commercial purposes
So a busload of Thais can come in and collect lingonberries at 1€ a kg and the 'slave owner' can sell to S-Market? Nice.
Afaik Thais sell to same companies that buy from Finns too. That 1€/kg might be right price, if you can get frozen 5kg bag for 15€.
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