Hello, My name is Simeon, and i have moved from Houston, Texas to Helsinki.
I'm a currently on a 90 day visa here ending on December 17th and I have fallen in love with Finland and the countries system and ethics.I seek to make a future here in Finland. I am currently looking for work in any field that would enable me to get a work visa, i am humble, hard working, and have experience with many different fields from working in Texas including customer service, sales marketing, teamwork, and airline operations, I'm very honoured for any position you may need me in, I'm currently free from studies and looking for for full time work or anything that would allow me to stay here, and I am thankful and waiting on a reply thank you!! I'm looking for any contacts directly they i may speak to from hotels to cruise ships, that are looking for applicants in cleaning and would hire immediately!! i calling different hotels at the moment and most are outsourced, so any help would be really appreciated thank you!!
Humbled Opportunities
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ThePenguinus
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Humbled Opportunities
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It all leads to: Do you speak Finnish? If not then your chances are basically non-existing. As you are not even from the EU any future employer would have to show that he tried to find sb suitable within Finland and the EU and fill out lots of paperwork for you. If you do not have any skills that would be essential, and by your description you don't have, and also no Finnish skills, then nobody will hire you.
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What is your visa status right now? Tourist? No work permit (residence permit) or some kind of permission to work = nobody, and I mean nobody, will employ you.
You're non-EU. In practice this means that the employer can only take you on if they can prove nobody in the EU was able or available to do the job. Applying for unskilled work is pointless (ie cleaning) as you will NEVER get it, no employer here is stupid enough to offer you work then wait months for your residence permit to be processed and then go through the crap of trying to prove there was no suitable cleaner in the EU apart from the magic Simeon. You need to be some kind of specialist or have some highly-desired, QUALIFIED career that means they have trouble recruiting and might be able to offer you work. The only field you've mentioned that might suit this is airline operations.
Customer service, sales marketing, teamwork are all useless, because you can't use them without the language and "speaks English" is not enough to make you a specialist here, even if you had a marketing degree.
The simplest way to get what you want is to enrol in a university/polytechnic here and come as a degree student. This needs to be self-funded from savings or some kind of passive income like real estate or stocks etc (something like 8000 euros you can show in a bank account when applying). You can then work limited hours (as a cleaner etc) once that study permit is granted.
You're non-EU. In practice this means that the employer can only take you on if they can prove nobody in the EU was able or available to do the job. Applying for unskilled work is pointless (ie cleaning) as you will NEVER get it, no employer here is stupid enough to offer you work then wait months for your residence permit to be processed and then go through the crap of trying to prove there was no suitable cleaner in the EU apart from the magic Simeon. You need to be some kind of specialist or have some highly-desired, QUALIFIED career that means they have trouble recruiting and might be able to offer you work. The only field you've mentioned that might suit this is airline operations.
Customer service, sales marketing, teamwork are all useless, because you can't use them without the language and "speaks English" is not enough to make you a specialist here, even if you had a marketing degree.
The simplest way to get what you want is to enrol in a university/polytechnic here and come as a degree student. This needs to be self-funded from savings or some kind of passive income like real estate or stocks etc (something like 8000 euros you can show in a bank account when applying). You can then work limited hours (as a cleaner etc) once that study permit is granted.
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betelgeuse
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Re: Humbled Opportunities
There's no burden of proof on the employer. TE-keskus does their own research. This can be seen in TEM054 that the employer submits.leisl wrote: You're non-EU. In practice this means that the employer can only take you on if they can prove nobody in the EU was able or available to do the job. Applying for unskilled work is pointless (ie cleaning) as you will NEVER get it, no employer here is stupid enough to offer you work then wait months for your residence permit to be processed and then go through the crap of trying to prove there was no suitable cleaner in the EU apart from the magic Simeon.
http://www.suomi.fi/suomifi/english/ese ... index.html
An advance ruling takes about two weeks.
http://toimistot.te-palvelut.fi/tyolupa-asioiden-ohjeetEnnakkotietoa haetaan työ- ja elinkeinoministeriön lomakkeella (TEM 0.54), ja sen saa noin kahdessa viikossa.
The biggest problem is the processing time required for the residence permit.
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.......... and don't forget that from 2017 on (which means the next University intake) non-EU citizens or legal residents will have to pay their own University fees which are going to be about 10,000 euro per year.
So, 10k x4, plus let's say 8k per year for living expenses means you need to come up with about 73,000e for a 4 year degree, or about half that for a masters....
Do not count on finding part time work to supplement your finances, it does not always happen and they want good finnish even for cleaning jobs.
Actually, when I think about it, the things people are willing to do to stay here are truly amazing. From my class at University here, one Russian MD is now working as a cleaner in Helsinki for 9.50e per hour. I know that the salaries in Russia are bad, but going through Medical training to be a cleaner? Is it really worth it? Is Finland really that great?
So, 10k x4, plus let's say 8k per year for living expenses means you need to come up with about 73,000e for a 4 year degree, or about half that for a masters....
Do not count on finding part time work to supplement your finances, it does not always happen and they want good finnish even for cleaning jobs.
Actually, when I think about it, the things people are willing to do to stay here are truly amazing. From my class at University here, one Russian MD is now working as a cleaner in Helsinki for 9.50e per hour. I know that the salaries in Russia are bad, but going through Medical training to be a cleaner? Is it really worth it? Is Finland really that great?