Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

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Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by bm50 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm

Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen?

Will British citizens need a visa to enter Finland?

Will Finnish citizens need a visa to visit their relatives in the UK?

Will British citizens still be able to register as EU citizens to stay in Finland?

What will happen to our Finnish pension etc?

Will our family members still be able to join us in Finland?

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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Marsh04 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:16 pm

Visas to visit are very unlikely. Work permits sure will be required.

For families joining you most probably will be subjected to income requirements if you are not a Finnish citizen.


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Beep_Boop » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:44 pm

Nothing will happen before 1st January 2021.
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Marsh04 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:08 am

No deal is still a big possibility. There will be no transition period if there is no deal


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by DMC » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:15 am

One issue I have not seen mentioned anywhere is driving licences for us Brits in Finland. Up until now I believe an EU citizen (obviously including Brits) had 3 options: exchange their home-country licence for a Finnish licence within 18(?) months of arrival, continue to drive on their home-country licence as it is valid throughout the EU, or take a Finnish driving test. For a Brit who has been here longer than 18 months driving on their UK licence, what happens after Brexit? Will it be legal to continue to drive in Finland? Will a Finnish driving test become necessary?


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Marsh04 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:07 am

I think once the situation is clear most probably they'll find a middle way. E.g if you have been driving for 5 years under a Finnish insurance you would be able to convert the licence without a test


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by suomynona.yllatot » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:50 pm

bm50 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm
Will British citizens need a visa to enter Finland?
Will Finnish citizens need a visa to visit their relatives in the UK?
Unlikely! Visa on arrival/ waiver, but again UK citizens may be restricted to the 90-day period.
bm50 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm
Will British citizens still be able to register as EU citizens to stay in Finland?
Unlikely! That's the whole thing, right?
bm50 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm
What will happen to our Finnish pension etc?
This is interesting for me as well. I know that Sweden restricts (agreed already?) that payment of pensions outside Sweden (was in the news). At the moment, they were talking about state pensions! But with these (and sorry for the rant), these #€%&/() pol1sh!tians there's no guarantee. If Finland can fleece you by not paying, they will.
bm50 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm
Will our family members still be able to join us in Finland?
I suppose yes, but as with any third country national, with income requirements.
bm50 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 pm
:ohno:
Exactly! I can't believe that this would happen!


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Upphew » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:18 pm

Marsh04 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:16 pm
Visas to visit are very unlikely.
Yup. UK has already indicated that they will put WU to visa-free list and EU will do the same unless UK puts visa requirement. So visas are highly unlikely as neither party wants them.
http://google.com http://translate.google.com http://urbandictionary.com
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by snorlonikins » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:23 pm

The British Embassy on FB will keep you updated on Brexit

https://www.facebook.com/BritishEmbassy ... PfZCZvB1ho
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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Cory » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Go to one of the Town Hall Meetings arranged by the British Embassy. They are held in Tampere, Turku and Helsinki. An announcement will be on their FB page.
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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by esox » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:28 pm

Nothing bad will come of it, it will just be EEC same as Switzerland and Norway.


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by Upphew » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:54 am

esox wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:28 pm
Nothing bad will come of it, it will just be EEC same as Switzerland and Norway.
You mean EEA? The one with freedom of movement, major reason for Brexit?
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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by browndude » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:12 pm

It is hard to know for sure. Most likely, you will get some special dispensation. Or horror of horrors, you might have to actually get a work permit like the rest of undesirable foreigners who are not from the EU/EEA etc....
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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by irnbru » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:07 am

browndude wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:12 pm
It is hard to know for sure. Most likely, you will get some special dispensation. Or horror of horrors, you might have to actually get a work permit like the rest of undesirable foreigners who are not from the EU/EEA etc....
The problem with your work permit suggestion is we can't apply for one before March 29th and after March 29th we are illegal and cannot work. Migri is not exactly famous for moving quickly. Currently we are all in danger of losing our jobs on March 29th then being unemployed and possibly even here illegally while we re-apply.


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Re: Brexit 29 March 2019 what will happen to us Brits?

Post by peroxisome » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:48 pm

Yes, in response to the OP, there are two scenarios.
one- May's deal is agreed, and there is a transition period. In this case, Uk citizens in Finland will mostly have the same position up until the end of 2020 (though extensions of transition period, etc). After that you have to worry.

two- a no deal brexit. In that case, we will be citizens of a third country from then on, with all that follows from that. i.e. we will not be EU citizens.

Various countries are planning for citizen's rights after a hard brexit, but it depends on what the UK offers, and I am not clear that Finland has finalised its position on how it will treat UK citizens afterwards.

However, up until the 29th March, you are an EU citizen, and you can make use of the rights available to you. You can apply for a Finnish driving licence and swap your UK licence for a Finnish licence. You can apply for a registration of your permanent residence here (if you have sufficient time here), which would then be valid after the UK leaves.

I would imagine it is sensible to keep very good documentation of your status in Finland, to be able to prove when you arrived, where you stayed, income, basis on which you stayed, etc. Even if there are opportunities which the Finnish state provides, it will likely be necessary to show you are eligible for those opportunities.

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