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jackbarnard
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Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:54 pm

Hi guys,

I am looking for a digging tool that's for making narrow but deep holes. They are usually called "Post hole diggers" in the UK and look like this:

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Anyone know where I can get these in Finland? I have searched everywhere I know, but I can't find them - I don't even know what they're called...

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Jack



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SecretCode
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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by SecretCode » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 pm

I bet Fiskars make one.
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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:14 am

SecretCode wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 pm
I bet Fiskars make one.
I would have thought so, but I can't find it :'(


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by meplusthree » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:24 am

Search for Tolppalapio

https://www.virtasenkauppa.fi/tolppalapio-fiskars-29581

https://www.eg-trading.fi/product/karlstad-tolppalapio

here is an other link in finnish with some other options - at least you can find the words for searching !

https://teeitse.com/tyokalut/tolppa-nop ... ppa-maahan

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jackbarnard
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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:15 am

Nice! Thanks for finding those.

Have to say though, that the price of these is crazy - you can get one of these in UK for 20 quid at the hardware store! Hoping I can find one from one of the discount stores somewhere...

Cheers


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by meplusthree » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:49 am

Dont know what you are building, I built 150m garden fence using the metal spikes that post fit in, they worked well for me but the ground was clay !
If ground is stoney then the dont work so well.

You could also try 'Kierrepaalut' which are threaded metal posts you screw into the ground - but approx cost is min 40eur per post when you include all the parts you need.

https://www.k-rauta.fi/rautakauppa/rake ... errepaalut

https://www.stark-suomi.fi/fi/rakennust ... -21061--11


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:04 pm

meplusthree wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:49 am
Dont know what you are building, I built 150m garden fence using the metal spikes that post fit in, they worked well for me but the ground was clay !
If ground is stoney then the dont work so well.

You could also try 'Kierrepaalut' which are threaded metal posts you screw into the ground - but approx cost is min 40eur per post when you include all the parts you need.

https://www.k-rauta.fi/rautakauppa/rake ... errepaalut

https://www.stark-suomi.fi/fi/rakennust ... -21061--11
I'm building a terrace, and I need something to help me dig the foundation holes. They've ended being pretty deep since there is a lot of fill material before you get down to the strong stuff (house is built into a hill and liekly there was a deep excavation for it). The holes are deep enough so that it's hard to use a normal spade to get the material out, that's why I thought those post hole diggers would be useful.

Those kierrepaalut are nice, but yes they are a little expensive and I think a lump of concrete will suffice as long as I can make the holes without killing myself haha. If you have any other ideas then I'm all ears!

Thanks
Jack


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by Upphew » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:54 am

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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:43 pm

Upphew wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:54 am
Rent something like this: https://www.pientalojapihapalvelu.fi/maapora-maakaira
I would, but my holes are already quite deep and I really need something to help me remove the loose soil from inside the holes. That's what the tolppalapio is for.


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by Keravalainen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:47 am

Hi!
Be aware, that over here we have long and cold winters, and the poles with a lump of concrete may be moving due to frost in the ground (routa). In countries with milder winters the "lump of concrete method" also works perfect - we used that, too, before the metal spikes were introduced.

We nowadays almost 100% use steel pole "feet" (metal spikes) which stay more stable over the winter time with frost in the ground. They're much more inexpensive and easier to install than "kierrepaalut". With them you don't need to dig any holes in the ground. A small starter hole made by an iron rod "rautakanki" may still be helpful.
https://www.bauhaus.fi/tolpanjalka-77-x ... 50-mm.html
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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by jackbarnard » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:09 pm

Keravalainen wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:47 am
Hi!
Be aware, that over here we have long and cold winters, and the poles with a lump of concrete may be moving due to frost in the ground (routa). In countries with milder winters the "lump of concrete method" also works perfect - we used that, too, before the metal spikes were introduced.

We nowadays almost 100% use steel pole "feet" (metal spikes) which stay more stable over the winter time with frost in the ground. They're much more inexpensive and easier to install than "kierrepaalut". With them you don't need to dig any holes in the ground. A small starter hole made by an iron rod "rautakanki" may still be helpful.
<a href="https://www.bauhaus.fi/tolpanjalka-77-x ... mm.html</a>
Hi!

Thanks for the advice. However, I am not actually digging holes for posts, but for concrete foundations that are about 350x350mm in area. I am aware of the frost problem and I am trying to get the foundations down as deep as I can reasonably get them to get it below the "frost-line". Do you have any idea about the approximate depth that would be required?

Thanks


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Re: Post Hole Digger

Post by Upphew » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:20 pm

jackbarnard wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:09 pm
Keravalainen wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:47 am
Hi!
Be aware, that over here we have long and cold winters, and the poles with a lump of concrete may be moving due to frost in the ground (routa). In countries with milder winters the "lump of concrete method" also works perfect - we used that, too, before the metal spikes were introduced.

We nowadays almost 100% use steel pole "feet" (metal spikes) which stay more stable over the winter time with frost in the ground. They're much more inexpensive and easier to install than "kierrepaalut". With them you don't need to dig any holes in the ground. A small starter hole made by an iron rod "rautakanki" may still be helpful.
<a href="https://www.bauhaus.fi/tolpanjalka-77-x ... mm.html</a>
Hi!

Thanks for the advice. However, I am not actually digging holes for posts, but for concrete foundations that are about 350x350mm in area. I am aware of the frost problem and I am trying to get the foundations down as deep as I can reasonably get them to get it below the "frost-line". Do you have any idea about the approximate depth that would be required?

Thanks
http://wwwi3.ymparisto.fi/i3/paasivu/EN ... /Routa.htm
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