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SurfingThrough
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Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by SurfingThrough » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm

Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!



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Upphew
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by Upphew » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:52 am

SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
This doesn't seem clear to me. Can B-permit still mean that your permanent residence and domicile has been here? If yes, then you are golden. I wonder why they don't use same terms all the time. https://migri.fi/en/article/-/asset_pub ... asumisaika
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Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.

agergis
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by agergis » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm

SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
Hello,

Yes. I had very similar situation like you. You are eligible to apply. Apply and don't worry.. it will be OK for sure. Just make sure you have a job when u apply and during the application time

SurfingThrough
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by SurfingThrough » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:43 pm

Upphew wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:52 am
SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
This doesn't seem clear to me. Can B-permit still mean that your permanent residence and domicile has been here? If yes, then you are golden. I wonder why they don't use same terms all the time. https://migri.fi/en/article/-/asset_pub ... asumisaika
It is indeed unclear. I fetched an extract from maistraatti and it says my "permanent address" is Espoo since the day I moved to Finland with student B permit. I think "degree" students who are staying for a minimum of 2 years in the city are considered permanent residents from the city perspective (but not in immigration terms). That's why degree students can use public healthcare services just like a Finn. I could be wrong but that's the best interpretation I could think of.

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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by SurfingThrough » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:00 pm

agergis wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm
SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hello,

Yes. I had very similar situation like you. You are eligible to apply. Apply and don't worry.. it will be OK for sure. Just make sure you have a job when u apply and during the application time
Thank you for the information! If you don't mind me bombarding you with questions:

Did you attach a letter explaining your "strong ties with Finland"?
What kind of additional information they asked you to submit?

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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by Upphew » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:40 pm

agergis wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm
SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
Hello,

Yes. I had very similar situation like you. You are eligible to apply. Apply and don't worry.. it will be OK for sure. Just make sure you have a job when u apply and during the application time
Why? Does the job add to the strong ties?
http://google.com http://translate.google.com http://urbandictionary.com
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.

newborn
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by newborn » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:27 am

SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
Technically, having a permanent full-time job means "close tie to Finland". One of my friends got that answer when he asked an immigration office about "close ties to Finland". So, you can apply for citizenship without any problem. However, if you still have confusion you can ask at the immigration office to be 100% sure or you can apply after 5-6 months as the processing time is more than 6 months which will make 5 years at the time of making the decision on your application.
Good luck.

tavastia
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by tavastia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:52 am

4B + 2A is ok as B is calculated half. Even Yki is considered strong ties with Finland.

agergis
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by agergis » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:28 pm

Upphew wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:40 pm
agergis wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm
SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
Hello,

Yes. I had very similar situation like you. You are eligible to apply. Apply and don't worry.. it will be OK for sure. Just make sure you have a job when u apply and during the application time
Why? Does the job add to the strong ties?
My strong ties were the job pays lips and the YKI test result .. passing YKI test makes you eligible to apply after 4 years

Supermies
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by Supermies » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:10 am

Upphew wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:40 pm
agergis wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm
SurfingThrough wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 pm
Hi everyone,

I have been living in Finland for 4 years on student (B) permit + 2 years on work (A) permit. This means my "period of residence" is 4 years. I passed all sections of YKI test with level 3.

-Has anyone applied for citizenship with 4-year period of residence and got it? If so, is this considered an exception to the period of residence for which you need to attach a letter requesting an exception to the 5-year rule?
-For those who applied with 4 years, what was your reasoning for having "strong ties with Finland". I mean what counts as strong ties?

Looking forward to hear from your experiences!
Hello,

Yes. I had very similar situation like you. You are eligible to apply. Apply and don't worry.. it will be OK for sure. Just make sure you have a job when u apply and during the application time
Why? Does the job add to the strong ties?
Of course a job in Finland adds to strong ties. Why would it not? You are a tax payer of this country and want to apply for citizenship.

Supermies
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Re: Citizenship after 4 years: Question

Post by Supermies » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:13 am

You should apply after 4 years since it takes 9 months to get the decision from migri.
Just saw the requirements and it says that
"You need to have lived in Finland for

the past five years without interruption (continuous period of residence) ".

I had applied after 4 and half years of time period. 2 B + 3.5 A = 4.5 years. My 5 years continuous time period completes during this month.

I applied on 7 Feb 2019, and still waiting for my application to start processing. its been 6 months now.

But you can call immigration to confirm it in your case.


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