Citizenship Application 2022

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hellofelicia
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by hellofelicia » Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am

Maaria wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:38 pm
Vicerg wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 am
ktrnc wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:22 am



I applied in Feb 2021 and interviewed with SUPO in summer. It is mandatory to speak the language that you used to prove your language skills.
Regarding the automated messages, this is not true. You should understand that SUPO is an independent organisation and it's not the migri who asks them for an interview but they choose people and invite them themselves. So there isn't any correlation with automated messages

If I may ask, did you get your decision already or is it processing or waiting to be processed?
Do you think also that your interview with SUPO affected your processing time or decision in anyway? Kiitos
Is Supo interview a part of the application process? Does everyone get called for the interview?
Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.



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Vahid8080
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Vahid8080 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am

hellofelicia wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am
Maaria wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:38 pm
Vicerg wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 am



If I may ask, did you get your decision already or is it processing or waiting to be processed?
Do you think also that your interview with SUPO affected your processing time or decision in anyway? Kiitos
Is Supo interview a part of the application process? Does everyone get called for the interview?
Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.

I am not sure SUPO checks documents in the early stage of process.
In the SUPO, they may start to talk Finnish or Swedish, but atleast in one case that I know for my friend they shift to English after 5 min.
I guess it depends on officer.

Maaria
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Maaria » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:30 pm

hellofelicia wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am
Maaria wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:38 pm
Vicerg wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 am



If I may ask, did you get your decision already or is it processing or waiting to be processed?
Do you think also that your interview with SUPO affected your processing time or decision in anyway? Kiitos
Is Supo interview a part of the application process? Does everyone get called for the interview?
Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.
Don't the residence permit applications also go through same checks at the establishing identity stage?

hellofelicia
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by hellofelicia » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:35 pm

Maaria wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:30 pm
hellofelicia wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am
Maaria wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:38 pm


Is Supo interview a part of the application process? Does everyone get called for the interview?
Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.
Don't the residence permit applications also go through same checks at the establishing identity stage?
Yes.
"Supo also issues opinions to the Finnish Immigration Service concerning applications for citizenship and residence permits."
https://supo.fi/en/what-kind-of-securit ... po-perform

Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Mamu » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:46 pm

hellofelicia wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:35 pm
Maaria wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:30 pm
hellofelicia wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am


Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.
Don't the residence permit applications also go through same checks at the establishing identity stage?
Yes.
"Supo also issues opinions to the Finnish Immigration Service concerning applications for citizenship and residence permits."
https://supo.fi/en/what-kind-of-securit ... po-perform
It’s 21 century everything is must decide to what has been written to books. (Terms and conditions are most important part of the decision)

letseatpizza
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by letseatpizza » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:48 pm

Is there anyone on this forum who has received a negative citizenship decision? Were you given a reason?

Maaria
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Maaria » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:51 pm

hellofelicia wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:35 pm
Maaria wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:30 pm
hellofelicia wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:35 am


Everyone's application goes through a SUPO check but they only invite selected people for an interview.
Don't the residence permit applications also go through same checks at the establishing identity stage?
Yes.
"Supo also issues opinions to the Finnish Immigration Service concerning applications for citizenship and residence permits."
https://supo.fi/en/what-kind-of-securit ... po-perform
Doesn't that mean application for citizenship will go faster, because checks have been already done during residence permit applications?

boy30062021
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by boy30062021 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:19 pm

Can anyone tell me what is the email address of Migri? I would like to send an email. is this migri@migri.com correct address to send a request?

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by akuno_hime_1412 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:56 pm

boy30062021 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:19 pm
Can anyone tell me what is the email address of Migri? I would like to send an email. is this migri@migri.com correct address to send a request?
Sähköposti: migri@migri.fi(virallinen sähköposti kirjaamoon)
https://migri.fi/yhteystiedot

hellofelicia
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by hellofelicia » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:59 pm

Maaria wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:51 pm
hellofelicia wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:35 pm

Yes.
"Supo also issues opinions to the Finnish Immigration Service concerning applications for citizenship and residence permits."
https://supo.fi/en/what-kind-of-securit ... po-perform
Doesn't that mean application for citizenship will go faster, because checks have been already done during residence permit applications?
Faster than what?

boy30062021
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by boy30062021 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Looks like there is new excuses at Migri that sends only same reply or adding few months to processing time. Looks like the new processing time is 9 - 23 months again. This is really getting frustrating. I think now people are forced to apply for new permit if current one is expiring.

Hei

Kiitos viestistäsi.

Hakemuksesi odottaa vielä käsittelyä ja kaikki hakemukset käsitellään erikseen. Kansalaisuushakemuksien käsittelyaika-arvio on 9-23 kk tällä hetkellä.
Jos käsittelyssä tarvitaan lisätietoja, niin Maahanmuuttovirasto on silloin sinuun yhteydessä.

Pyydämme odottamaan kärsivällisesti ja pahoittelemme ruuhkaa.

Maaria
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Maaria » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:27 am

hellofelicia wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:59 pm
Maaria wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:51 pm
hellofelicia wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:35 pm

Yes.
"Supo also issues opinions to the Finnish Immigration Service concerning applications for citizenship and residence permits."
https://supo.fi/en/what-kind-of-securit ... po-perform
Doesn't that mean application for citizenship will go faster, because checks have been already done during residence permit applications?
Faster than what?
Faster than how long it's taking now. What I understand from reading this thread is application takes so long because identity has to be established correctly and checks are done for that purpose. And supo does that. But if supo has done that when the same person applied for residence permit, they must have these info in their records. So they don't have to do the same thing again. But I am confused as to why it's still taking so long for so many people.

Vicerg
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Vicerg » Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:29 am

Because for me, I think citizenship application is the least important application for the immigration to process and that’s why it takes so long. They are like, mmm let’s process 3-4 applications today since they keep pilling up. Even if it take 2-3years to process is not our problem. They can wait😂😂😂😂

Bunble
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Bunble » Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:59 am

boy30062021 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:10 pm
Looks like there is new excuses at Migri that sends only same reply or adding few months to processing time. Looks like the new processing time is 9 - 23 months again. This is really getting frustrating. I think now people are forced to apply for new permit if current one is expiring.

Hei

Kiitos viestistäsi.

Hakemuksesi odottaa vielä käsittelyä ja kaikki hakemukset käsitellään erikseen. Kansalaisuushakemuksien käsittelyaika-arvio on 9-23 kk tällä hetkellä.
Jos käsittelyssä tarvitaan lisätietoja, niin Maahanmuuttovirasto on silloin sinuun yhteydessä.

Pyydämme odottamaan kärsivällisesti ja pahoittelemme ruuhkaa.
Just checked the website, it’s now 9-25 months 😂

hellofelicia
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by hellofelicia » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:27 pm

Maaria wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:27 am
hellofelicia wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:59 pm
Maaria wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:51 pm


Doesn't that mean application for citizenship will go faster, because checks have been already done during residence permit applications?
Faster than what?
Faster than how long it's taking now. What I understand from reading this thread is application takes so long because identity has to be established correctly and checks are done for that purpose. And supo does that. But if supo has done that when the same person applied for residence permit, they must have these info in their records. So they don't have to do the same thing again. But I am confused as to why it's still taking so long for so many people.
Have you considered that SUPO has performed this check for everyone else in the queue as well? I also don't know where you base the assumption that they don't have to do the same thing again. You get elevated privileges as a citizen, so it makes sense for them to do different kinds of investigation.
Also, SUPO is not the only entity that receives requests from Migri and I don't think your understanding that the delays come from SUPO are correct.


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