Citizenship Application 2023

[Biyanii]

Those Case officers are at the moment doin their
työharjoittelu training themself using your application or mine end of the story after two years you get decision which is negative.

Have you got negative decision?

NO! I am still waiting almost 26 months.

Same here mate!

[37yqp8098y5]

Stop checking every freakin day... you guys literally need something better to do. Don't you have jobs and hobbies and friends and family to distract you whilst you are waiting? Take a hint.

[37yqp8098y5]

In other news, for those of you who are waiting longer than 24 months. You should be eligible now to open up a complaint with the Oikeusasiamies.
If you haven't waited 24 months at least, don't bother! You're just going to get your claim declined.

Because Migri is a governmental organization and you have been waiting longer than the estimated processing time. You could reliably form the grounds for a complaint and at least force OAM to investigate your case.

I've done this before with two government organizations in Finland and had great results. Once with Trafficom when they took 9 months to issue me a driving license and estimated time was max 3 months. They had taken my old license and basically held it "hostage" whilst not having given me a new one, so I made a complaint after 6 months and gathered all of my evidence etc. A lawyer contacted me after 3 month of submitting my claim to Oikeusasiamies. We spoke on the phone and they clarified a few things and then said they would contact Trafficom. 2 days later the lawyer called me back and just laughed and said "You should have your license in your mailbox by tomorrow morning."

I have also had another experience with them which was very positive. When I moved back to Finland after living and studying overseas, DVV had not updated my address to permanent in the system here even after 6 months, when average processing time was 2 weeks originally, but then they said it could take as long as 3 months. This was preventing me from getting eg. Bank ID, Home insurance, phone subscription etc. So once again I contacted Oikeusasiamies and complained. This time it took only 1 week for them to call me, and 4 days after that, they called again and said DVV will process my application this week.

So the point here is, all of you clowns have been whining and crying for years about everything, but do any of you even realise what your rights actually are? Or who/what are available for you to exercise those rights? Imagine if you had some put of the time you got here checking every single day Kamu-bot lmao, into actually making a claim with the authority that is literally responsible for tracking down and chasing G.O's to make sure they are doing their job. You have all supposedly lived here long enough to apply for citizenship but has even a single one of you tried contacting OAM and making a case for yourself? I doubt it. Let that say something about the collective intelligence of people here. At least it would do a whole lot more for you than complaining endlessly on a forum.

I know people who have even successfully used Oikeusasiamies to chase down a situation with Posti, because it too is a government organization.

Your success will depend entirely on how you want to base the so-called "wrongdoing" that has happened to you. Also they aren't an organization which you could expect some level of compensation from. For that you gotta sue Migri yourself. But if it's a resolution of your citizenship application, that is something they could likely very well help with.

Usually the process goes like this:

1. You make the best possible case to OAM in the clearest language you can explaining the wrongdoing and give all evidence you have as to why you think that Migri isn't doing their job and why your application should have been processed already. Put as much evidence and material together as you can, but make sure it's relevant. They don't care so much about your feelings. They care what legitimate ground you have that you feel Migri has not done their legal duty.

So eg. complaining about f**king Kamu to them is pointless.

2. You submit your claim to them and be prepared to wait AT LEAST 3 months to get a response. You'll usually get a phonecall if there was enough good evidence for them to just immediately start working on your case when it is your turn. Otherwise they will email you for more information.

3. Usually when someone is assigned to work on your case, they are extremely aggressive at fixing the problem. All of these people are lawyers who are working on your behalf and you have given them right to investigate your case, so they work quite fast. Also because they are the highest authority that deals with public complaints against government organizations. It means organizations like Migri, Trafficom etc. have to respond to them extremely quickly. They are not allowed to ignore OAM's requests.

4. OAM will usually ask quite simply "What is the obstacle stopping this person from having their application/claim/whatever resolved". When doin this they don't accept answers like "We haven't got to their number yet" because they have already missed the deadline for doing your case. So they will tell them immediately to assign someone to it and complete the case straight away. If Migri can prove that it is YOUR FAULT that the application is not processed, that is, they are missing some information from you. Then Oikeusasiamies will drop the case when they get that evidence. If Migri cannot defend themselves as to why they have taken so long, like I said Migri must immediately solve the case because you have a legitimate legal ground for the complaint.

5. You'll get a response from OAM and usually it'll be resolved within a few days if they are not missing any evidence from you.

Stuff like this is why our tax dollars are so high and it's part of what we get for living in a democracy and nanny-state. So you might as well make use of it. If someone here has tried and got nowhere, then likely you weren't waiting long enough for your application to be processed by Migri, or you made a bad case to OAM and just wrote them some pathetic sob story which is never good enough.

Also, each time OAM resolves a case for someone and it was resolved BECAUSE OAM got involved, it's reflected negatively against the organization who needed the intervention. So basically it goes on Migri's official record of "failing the people" because there is no bigger failure than needing OAM to push an organization to do their job.

P.S. Stop calling yourself f**king "customers" of Migri. They are a government organization. That's some 1984-tier nonsense.

[BomjaraSedoi]

In other news, for those of you who are waiting longer than 24 months. You should be eligible now to open up a complaint with the Oikeusasiamies.
If you haven't waited 24 months at least, don't bother! You're just going to get your claim declined.

Because Migri is a governmental organization and you have been waiting longer than the estimated processing time. You could reliably form the grounds for a complaint and at least force OAM to investigate your case.

I've done this before with two government organizations in Finland and had great results. Once with Trafficom when they took 9 months to issue me a driving license and estimated time was max 3 months. They had taken my old license and basically held it "hostage" whilst not having given me a new one, so I made a complaint after 6 months and gathered all of my evidence etc. A lawyer contacted me after 3 month of submitting my claim to Oikeusasiamies. We spoke on the phone and they clarified a few things and then said they would contact Trafficom. 2 days later the lawyer called me back and just laughed and said "You should have your license in your mailbox by tomorrow morning."

I have also had another experience with them which was very positive. When I moved back to Finland after living and studying overseas, DVV had not updated my address to permanent in the system here even after 6 months, when average processing time was 2 weeks originally, but then they said it could take as long as 3 months. This was preventing me from getting eg. Bank ID, Home insurance, phone subscription etc. So once again I contacted Oikeusasiamies and complained. This time it took only 1 week for them to call me, and 4 days after that, they called again and said DVV will process my application this week.

So the point here is, all of you clowns have been whining and crying for years about everything, but do any of you even realise what your rights actually are? Or who/what are available for you to exercise those rights? Imagine if you had some put of the time you got here checking every single day Kamu-bot lmao, into actually making a claim with the authority that is literally responsible for tracking down and chasing G.O's to make sure they are doing their job. You have all supposedly lived here long enough to apply for citizenship but has even a single one of you tried contacting OAM and making a case for yourself? I doubt it. Let that say something about the collective intelligence of people here. At least it would do a whole lot more for you than complaining endlessly on a forum.

I know people who have even successfully used Oikeusasiamies to chase down a situation with Posti, because it too is a government organization.

Your success will depend entirely on how you want to base the so-called "wrongdoing" that has happened to you. Also they aren't an organization which you could expect some level of compensation from. For that you gotta sue Migri yourself. But if it's a resolution of your citizenship application, that is something they could likely very well help with.

Usually the process goes like this:

1. You make the best possible case to OAM in the clearest language you can explaining the wrongdoing and give all evidence you have as to why you think that Migri isn't doing their job and why your application should have been processed already. Put as much evidence and material together as you can, but make sure it's relevant. They don't care so much about your feelings. They care what legitimate ground you have that you feel Migri has not done their legal duty.

So eg. complaining about f**king Kamu to them is pointless.

2. You submit your claim to them and be prepared to wait AT LEAST 3 months to get a response. You'll usually get a phonecall if there was enough good evidence for them to just immediately start working on your case when it is your turn. Otherwise they will email you for more information.

3. Usually when someone is assigned to work on your case, they are extremely aggressive at fixing the problem. All of these people are lawyers who are working on your behalf and you have given them right to investigate your case, so they work quite fast. Also because they are the highest authority that deals with public complaints against government organizations. It means organizations like Migri, Trafficom etc. have to respond to them extremely quickly. They are not allowed to ignore OAM's requests.

4. OAM will usually ask quite simply "What is the obstacle stopping this person from having their application/claim/whatever resolved". When doin this they don't accept answers like "We haven't got to their number yet" because they have already missed the deadline for doing your case. So they will tell them immediately to assign someone to it and complete the case straight away. If Migri can prove that it is YOUR FAULT that the application is not processed, that is, they are missing some information from you. Then Oikeusasiamies will drop the case when they get that evidence. If Migri cannot defend themselves as to why they have taken so long, like I said Migri must immediately solve the case because you have a legitimate legal ground for the complaint.

5. You'll get a response from OAM and usually it'll be resolved within a few days if they are not missing any evidence from you.

Stuff like this is why our tax dollars are so high and it's part of what we get for living in a democracy and nanny-state. So you might as well make use of it. If someone here has tried and got nowhere, then likely you weren't waiting long enough for your application to be processed by Migri, or you made a bad case to OAM and just wrote them some pathetic sob story which is never good enough.

Also, each time OAM resolves a case for someone and it was resolved BECAUSE OAM got involved, it's reflected negatively against the organization who needed the intervention. So basically it goes on Migri's official record of "failing the people" because there is no bigger failure than needing OAM to push an organization to do their job.

P.S. Stop calling yourself f**king "customers" of Migri. They are a government organization. That's some 1984-tier nonsense.

Actually Finland haven’t official waiting time for citizenship.
All information on the migri site it’s estimated time, but not guaranteed by the law. They can handling your case 10 years and more and it is not unlaw.

Otherwise what reason for it? We don’t know it unfortunately.

[kosker]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

[Schmania]

Stop checking every freakin day... you guys literally need something better to do. Don't you have jobs and hobbies and friends and family to distract you whilst you are waiting? Take a hint.

I wonder if you are applying for the Finnish citizenship because you got deprived of your own for being a rude arrongant douche

[Subzero]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

Congratulations.......finally some good news

[Svhpk]

Time to share good news. Hello

Received Positive decision yesterday at 15:30 via sms.

Identity proved : 06.03.2023
In progress : 02.05.2023
Decision : 10.05.2023

Took around 2 months

Country on list

[kalaizanala]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

Congratulations!!!
There are not much positive decisions these days

[Subzero]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

Congratulations!!!
There are not much positive decisions these days

Hello, do you know someone who has got negative decision..?

[Biyanii]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

Congrats!

[Auringon_kukka]

Recently, I got my positive decision after 18 months of waiting. I received SMS and email notification when my process had started and a decision granted. I updated my payslips and travel information monthly, and they did not ask anything during the process. Kamu was not working, so I do not know the queue number when I received the decision. But, it must be something like 1700. Nevertheless, I do not think the queue number means much. Nowadays, you get your decision either in 6-8 months, 18 months, 24 months, or longer. In my queue, they should be processing the applications from late October/November 2021 now.

CONGRATS !!!

[nikskate]

In other news, for those of you who are waiting longer than 24 months. You should be eligible now to open up a complaint with the Oikeusasiamies.
If you haven't waited 24 months at least, don't bother! You're just going to get your claim declined.

Because Migri is a governmental organization and you have been waiting longer than the estimated processing time. You could reliably form the grounds for a complaint and at least force OAM to investigate your case.

I've done this before with two government organizations in Finland and had great results. Once with Trafficom when they took 9 months to issue me a driving license and estimated time was max 3 months. They had taken my old license and basically held it "hostage" whilst not having given me a new one, so I made a complaint after 6 months and gathered all of my evidence etc. A lawyer contacted me after 3 month of submitting my claim to Oikeusasiamies. We spoke on the phone and they clarified a few things and then said they would contact Trafficom. 2 days later the lawyer called me back and just laughed and said "You should have your license in your mailbox by tomorrow morning."

I have also had another experience with them which was very positive. When I moved back to Finland after living and studying overseas, DVV had not updated my address to permanent in the system here even after 6 months, when average processing time was 2 weeks originally, but then they said it could take as long as 3 months. This was preventing me from getting eg. Bank ID, Home insurance, phone subscription etc. So once again I contacted Oikeusasiamies and complained. This time it took only 1 week for them to call me, and 4 days after that, they called again and said DVV will process my application this week.

So the point here is, all of you clowns have been whining and crying for years about everything, but do any of you even realise what your rights actually are? Or who/what are available for you to exercise those rights? Imagine if you had some put of the time you got here checking every single day Kamu-bot lmao, into actually making a claim with the authority that is literally responsible for tracking down and chasing G.O's to make sure they are doing their job. You have all supposedly lived here long enough to apply for citizenship but has even a single one of you tried contacting OAM and making a case for yourself? I doubt it. Let that say something about the collective intelligence of people here. At least it would do a whole lot more for you than complaining endlessly on a forum.

I know people who have even successfully used Oikeusasiamies to chase down a situation with Posti, because it too is a government organization.

Your success will depend entirely on how you want to base the so-called "wrongdoing" that has happened to you. Also they aren't an organization which you could expect some level of compensation from. For that you gotta sue Migri yourself. But if it's a resolution of your citizenship application, that is something they could likely very well help with.

Usually the process goes like this:

1. You make the best possible case to OAM in the clearest language you can explaining the wrongdoing and give all evidence you have as to why you think that Migri isn't doing their job and why your application should have been processed already. Put as much evidence and material together as you can, but make sure it's relevant. They don't care so much about your feelings. They care what legitimate ground you have that you feel Migri has not done their legal duty.

So eg. complaining about f**king Kamu to them is pointless.

2. You submit your claim to them and be prepared to wait AT LEAST 3 months to get a response. You'll usually get a phonecall if there was enough good evidence for them to just immediately start working on your case when it is your turn. Otherwise they will email you for more information.

3. Usually when someone is assigned to work on your case, they are extremely aggressive at fixing the problem. All of these people are lawyers who are working on your behalf and you have given them right to investigate your case, so they work quite fast. Also because they are the highest authority that deals with public complaints against government organizations. It means organizations like Migri, Trafficom etc. have to respond to them extremely quickly. They are not allowed to ignore OAM's requests.

4. OAM will usually ask quite simply "What is the obstacle stopping this person from having their application/claim/whatever resolved". When doin this they don't accept answers like "We haven't got to their number yet" because they have already missed the deadline for doing your case. So they will tell them immediately to assign someone to it and complete the case straight away. If Migri can prove that it is YOUR FAULT that the application is not processed, that is, they are missing some information from you. Then Oikeusasiamies will drop the case when they get that evidence. If Migri cannot defend themselves as to why they have taken so long, like I said Migri must immediately solve the case because you have a legitimate legal ground for the complaint.

5. You'll get a response from OAM and usually it'll be resolved within a few days if they are not missing any evidence from you.

Stuff like this is why our tax dollars are so high and it's part of what we get for living in a democracy and nanny-state. So you might as well make use of it. If someone here has tried and got nowhere, then likely you weren't waiting long enough for your application to be processed by Migri, or you made a bad case to OAM and just wrote them some pathetic sob story which is never good enough.

Also, each time OAM resolves a case for someone and it was resolved BECAUSE OAM got involved, it's reflected negatively against the organization who needed the intervention. So basically it goes on Migri's official record of "failing the people" because there is no bigger failure than needing OAM to push an organization to do their job.

P.S. Stop calling yourself f**king "customers" of Migri. They are a government organization. That's some 1984-tier nonsense.

Actually Finland haven’t official waiting time for citizenship.
All information on the migri site it’s estimated time, but not guaranteed by the law. They can handling your case 10 years and more and it is not unlaw.

Otherwise what reason for it? We don’t know it unfortunately.

I had a classmate back in language class whose husband was denied citizenship because of some minor offence (I forgot what it was about exactly) but he had to wait for years to get denied. I don't know if migri took a long time to decide because they considered approving the application and needed further justification or they just shove his application at the storage room and waited for someone who got bored enough to actually process it. But either way, I think it is cruel to have someone wait that long only to be denied.

[kosker]

Thanks all and good luck with your applications!

[mamutti]

Woooow, that is so quick
Congratulations!

Time to share good news. Hello

Received Positive decision yesterday at 15:30 via sms.

Identity proved : 06.03.2023
In progress : 02.05.2023
Decision : 10.05.2023

Took around 2 months

Country on list