Citizenship Application 2023

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Toivoton3
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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Toivoton3 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:24 pm

Hi guys aplied in May 2021. Started processing last friday and got positive decision today after waiting 28 months. Good luck to you guys and thank you for your support and messages in this forum. Has been a great therapy during the waiting time 🥰



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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by dude238818 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:32 pm

Toivoton3 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:24 pm
Hi guys aplied in May 2021. Started processing last friday and got positive decision today after waiting 28 months. Good luck to you guys and thank you for your support and messages in this forum. Has been a great therapy during the waiting time 🥰
Congrats🥂🥂 Can you please tell what was your queue number? When did you apply in May I mean date? Applied 1st of July and 26 months waiting. Have you contacted them recently?

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Auringon_kukka » Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:37 pm

juls wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:19 am
Got my decision 2 days ago, no email, no sms, just checked EnterFinland!

Queue number 28xx, applied on 1.7.22, to stage 2 moved in november 2022, since then been obsessively waiting.
Congratulations, especially after your lengthy and stressful wait. Hope you celebrate!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Auringon_kukka » Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:38 pm

Toivoton3 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:24 pm
Hi guys aplied in May 2021. Started processing last friday and got positive decision today after waiting 28 months. Good luck to you guys and thank you for your support and messages in this forum. Has been a great therapy during the waiting time 🥰
A big congratulations after your 2-year+ wait! Celebration time!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Ohthatguy » Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:20 pm

karhu86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:47 pm
juls wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:19 am
Got my decision 2 days ago, no email, no sms, just checked EnterFinland!

Queue number 28xx, applied on 1.7.22, to stage 2 moved in november 2022, since then been obsessively waiting.
OMG congratulations JULS, you made my week. That is super good news, because finally someone who have been waiting forever in stage 2, like me, got a positive response. Did you know why it took them too long on stage 2?
Congratulations all!
My stage 2 started 2 weeks ago with my family and im quite interested why some take quick to take a decision and some not so long :) i have a PR but my wife’s residence permit has expired since June and waiting for either a PR or citizenship. Even though the waiting is tough but i don’t really mind it since it will arrive one day anyways. However, my wife couldn’t travel at all for the last 3 months and if anything unexpected happened like sudden sickness of family member aboard etc i dont know what can we do honestly…
Anyways best of luck for everyone here!

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by browndude » Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:20 pm

Toivoton3 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:24 pm
Hi guys aplied in May 2021. Started processing last friday and got positive decision today after waiting 28 months. Good luck to you guys and thank you for your support and messages in this forum. Has been a great therapy during the waiting time 🥰
Congratulations! That was a very long time to wait!
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karhu86
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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by karhu86 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:04 pm

Seriously bro i have no idea why my application is taking that long on stage 2. i mean i wouldn't have minded if it was stage 1, but being almost 5 month on stage 2 is kind of weird. Especially that i came here to finland with a residency permit, i have PR, i have a master's degree and Phd from finland, and i am working and country is not on the list, and passed all sections of YKI if that counts or no. The funny part is that i never had any problems with migri in the past, all my applications were processed super fast. For example i got my PR in 3 days. and i have asked many people with similar situation, what can be the problem and nobody has a solid answer!

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by RandomDude » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:39 pm

karhu86 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Seriously bro i have no idea why my application is taking that long on stage 2. i mean i wouldn't have minded if it was stage 1, but being almost 5 month on stage 2 is kind of weird. Especially that i came here to finland with a residency permit, i have PR, i have a master's degree and Phd from finland, and i am working and country is not on the list, and passed all sections of YKI if that counts or no. The funny part is that i never had any problems with migri in the past, all my applications were processed super fast. For example i got my PR in 3 days. and i have asked many people with similar situation, what can be the problem and nobody has a solid answer!
Just a wild guess - what if having PR gives your case low priority? Meaning you don't have to worry about extending temporary permits, can reside in Finland even while being unemployed and receiving Kela benefits etc.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by juhapekkonen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:48 pm

Ohthatguy wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:20 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:47 pm
juls wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:19 am
Got my decision 2 days ago, no email, no sms, just checked EnterFinland!

Queue number 28xx, applied on 1.7.22, to stage 2 moved in november 2022, since then been obsessively waiting.
OMG congratulations JULS, you made my week. That is super good news, because finally someone who have been waiting forever in stage 2, like me, got a positive response. Did you know why it took them too long on stage 2?
Congratulations all!
My stage 2 started 2 weeks ago with my family and im quite interested why some take quick to take a decision and some not so long :) i have a PR but my wife’s residence permit has expired since June and waiting for either a PR or citizenship. Even though the waiting is tough but i don’t really mind it since it will arrive one day anyways. However, my wife couldn’t travel at all for the last 3 months and if anything unexpected happened like sudden sickness of family member aboard etc i dont know what can we do honestly…
Anyways best of luck for everyone here!
You've mentioned that the residence permit has expired. However, according to the rules, a person must have a valid permit until a citizenship decision is made. I'm not sure if the same applies to a permanent permit. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by another_one » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:41 pm

karhu86 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Seriously bro i have no idea why my application is taking that long on stage 2. i mean i wouldn't have minded if it was stage 1, but being almost 5 month on stage 2 is kind of weird. Especially that i came here to finland with a residency permit, i have PR, i have a master's degree and Phd from finland, and i am working and country is not on the list, and passed all sections of YKI if that counts or no. The funny part is that i never had any problems with migri in the past, all my applications were processed super fast. For example i got my PR in 3 days. and i have asked many people with similar situation, what can be the problem and nobody has a solid answer!
So far it feels like there is actually no logic whether your application is processed fast or not.
No matter how much money you make, what is your family situation, how long you've been living in Finland etc.

If you are lucky you will get a decision fast. If you are not then you have a chance that you will have to wait over 2 years.
I would assume that there is nothing special happening with your application: migri employee just started processing it, went for a lunch and then forgot to get back to your application.

I did a small research based on publicly available data and I can see that for some reason currently migri mostly processes applications who either have small queue number (and obviously waited quite long time) or have queue number ~4400-4800. So if your application was not processed within a first ~6-7 months then there is a chance that you will have to wait for quite a long time.
Of course these are only my assumptions based on the current situation. I may be wrong and/or situation may change in the future.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by kaamosmasennus » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:02 pm

RandomDude wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:39 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:04 pm
Seriously bro i have no idea why my application is taking that long on stage 2. i mean i wouldn't have minded if it was stage 1, but being almost 5 month on stage 2 is kind of weird. Especially that i came here to finland with a residency permit, i have PR, i have a master's degree and Phd from finland, and i am working and country is not on the list, and passed all sections of YKI if that counts or no. The funny part is that i never had any problems with migri in the past, all my applications were processed super fast. For example i got my PR in 3 days. and i have asked many people with similar situation, what can be the problem and nobody has a solid answer!
Just a wild guess - what if having PR gives your case low priority? Meaning you don't have to worry about extending temporary permits, can reside in Finland even while being unemployed and receiving Kela benefits etc.
I doubt this. I had a permanent residence permit when applied for the citizenship in August’22 and I got the decision in February’23. So even with unlimited residence permit it took about 6-7 months.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Porridge » Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:30 am

juhapekkonen wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:48 pm
Ohthatguy wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:20 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:47 pm


OMG congratulations JULS, you made my week. That is super good news, because finally someone who have been waiting forever in stage 2, like me, got a positive response. Did you know why it took them too long on stage 2?
Congratulations all!
My stage 2 started 2 weeks ago with my family and im quite interested why some take quick to take a decision and some not so long :) i have a PR but my wife’s residence permit has expired since June and waiting for either a PR or citizenship. Even though the waiting is tough but i don’t really mind it since it will arrive one day anyways. However, my wife couldn’t travel at all for the last 3 months and if anything unexpected happened like sudden sickness of family member aboard etc i dont know what can we do honestly…
Anyways best of luck for everyone here!
You've mentioned that the residence permit has expired. However, according to the rules, a person must have a valid permit until a citizenship decision is made. I'm not sure if the same applies to a permanent permit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It is okay if you apply for citizenship and have an expired residence permit as long as you applied for another residence permit.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by Auringon_kukka » Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:03 pm

juhapekkonen wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:48 pm
Ohthatguy wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:20 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:47 pm


OMG congratulations JULS, you made my week. That is super good news, because finally someone who have been waiting forever in stage 2, like me, got a positive response. Did you know why it took them too long on stage 2?
Congratulations all!
My stage 2 started 2 weeks ago with my family and im quite interested why some take quick to take a decision and some not so long :) i have a PR but my wife’s residence permit has expired since June and waiting for either a PR or citizenship. Even though the waiting is tough but i don’t really mind it since it will arrive one day anyways. However, my wife couldn’t travel at all for the last 3 months and if anything unexpected happened like sudden sickness of family member aboard etc i dont know what can we do honestly…
Anyways best of luck for everyone here!
You've mentioned that the residence permit has expired. However, according to the rules, a person must have a valid permit until a citizenship decision is made. I'm not sure if the same applies to a permanent permit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I believe your interpretation is correct. You must have a valid residence permit while your citizenship application is pending. If you have a regular residence permit and are applying for citizenship, going for an extended residence permit seems to be the easier, cheaper and faster route. I applied for citizenship in August 2022 and had to renew my residence permit this past summer. I applied for an extended permit, and it was approved in less than 24 hours.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by 37yqp8098y5 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:12 am

Porridge wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:30 am
It is okay if you apply for citizenship and have an expired residence permit as long as you applied for another residence permit.
This is correct. Whilst your citizenship application is processing, to get it approved you must either have:

1. A pending application for a residence permit
or
2. A valid residence permit

Those are the only two things that they will accept. If you do not have a pending application or a valid permit, the citizenship application is denied.
The average Somali and Iraqi costs Finland €12,000 per person, per year.
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Re: Citizenship Application 2023

Post by 37yqp8098y5 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:16 am

juls wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:19 am
Got my decision 2 days ago, no email, no sms, just checked EnterFinland!

Queue number 28xx, applied on 1.7.22, to stage 2 moved in november 2022, since then been obsessively waiting.
I knew some people weren't getting SMS or Email about this. So basically still gotta check everything every few weeks to be sure that you even get any notification. Crazy that you can pay €450 euros and not even get an email or text message that the application got a decision. :roll:

Congrats though! Wonder why it took so long in stage 2. Maybe because of them checking criminal record overseas?
Toivoton3 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:24 pm
Hi guys aplied in May 2021. Started processing last friday and got positive decision today after waiting 28 months. Good luck to you guys and thank you for your support and messages in this forum. Has been a great therapy during the waiting time 🥰
Congrats and well done on being so patient. Did you get an SMS or Email? It seems many people aren't getting these at all...
The average Somali and Iraqi costs Finland €12,000 per person, per year.
https://julkaisut.valtioneuvosto.fi/handle/10024/160396


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