Citizenship Application 2023

[No_doo]

You see, if I would wait longer than 6 months, I will call them and push them to give me new estimates. You even dont think to do that, you just accept reality which will never be on your side unless ypu do something.

Good luck and let us know what unusual words they'll find for you then Just read the thread and I repeat - I really hope that you will be more lucky!

Well I know people who were calling and getting answers, and you are hidding and makings laughs, and not sharing anything more except negative sentiments. It is clear for me that there is something special about tour background which you do not want to share here (for example, you country of origin does not provide info about you or crime records).

If you check citezenship stat here, migi has Exipred matters decisions for some nationalities, i.e. they just reject application after processing time expired

https://statistics.migri.fi/#decisions

Welcome to the forum our new fella!
Hold your horses and don't accuse anyone because there is a long waiting time ahead of you. Be patient, read, get yourself educated. And don't accuse others.
People here are simply waiting as you are. No one is getting quicker decision because they are better or having a faster or clearer application than others. It is a random process and no one knows on what migri ranks us internally.

Calm down, learn to be patient and wait.
Good luck!

[just_passing_by]

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[TUserFin]

Good luck and let us know what unusual words they'll find for you then Just read the thread and I repeat - I really hope that you will be more lucky!

Well I know people who were calling and getting answers, and you are hidding and makings laughs, and not sharing anything more except negative sentiments. It is clear for me that there is something special about tour background which you do not want to share here (for example, you country of origin does not provide info about you or crime records).

If you check citezenship stat here, migi has Exipred matters decisions for some nationalities, i.e. they just reject application after processing time expired

https://statistics.migri.fi/#decisions

Welcome to the forum our new fella!
Hold your horses and don't accuse anyone because there is a long waiting time ahead of you. Be patient, read, get yourself educated. And don't accuse others.
People here are simply waiting as you are. No one is getting quicker decision because they are better or having a faster or clearer application than others. It is a random process and no one knows on what migri ranks us internally.

Calm down, learn to be patient and wait. You will get it someday after a well deserved waiting!

Good luck!

Chill down bro, I think you dont get the point. It is not random. I know a person who called migri and they told him exact month when his application will be processed, and it was processed that month. Migri knows everything. Do your country of origin has expired matters on the stat page, I shared? If yes it means that delay probably because of communication with your authorities.

p.s. there a lot of people from May-June this year who got a decision in 4-5 months

[TUserFin]

Just out of curiosity, anyone from a stable country here which is not on a list and not Russia/Belorussia (as they might go through SUPO checks) on this forrum who applied based on work, passed yki, lives 5 years and waiting above 7 month for a decision? ...also country does not have expired matters on the stat page?

[No_doo]

Well I know people who were calling and getting answers, and you are hidding and makings laughs, and not sharing anything more except negative sentiments. It is clear for me that there is something special about tour background which you do not want to share here (for example, you country of origin does not provide info about you or crime records).

If you check citezenship stat here, migi has Exipred matters decisions for some nationalities, i.e. they just reject application after processing time expired

https://statistics.migri.fi/#decisions

Welcome to the forum our new fella!
Hold your horses and don't accuse anyone because there is a long waiting time ahead of you. Be patient, read, get yourself educated. And don't accuse others.
People here are simply waiting as you are. No one is getting quicker decision because they are better or having a faster or clearer application than others. It is a random process and no one knows on what migri ranks us internally.

Calm down, learn to be patient and wait. You will get it someday after a well deserved waiting!

Good luck!

Chill down bro, I think you dont get the point. It is not random. I know a person who called migri and they told him exact month when his application will be processed, and it was processed that month. Migri knows everything. Do your country of origin has expired matters on the stat page, I shared? If yes it means that delay probably because of communication with your authorities.

p.s. there a lot of people from May-June this year who got a decision in 4-5 months

Nope. My county doesn’t have an expired matters. And I know many people from my country who got it quickly, while others got it after a long wait. It is so random as I believe.

[TUserFin]

Nope. My county doesn’t have an expired matters. And I know many people from my country who got it quickly, while others got it after a long wait. It is so random as I believe.

And your application is based on work or what condition?

[TUserFin]

Btw no one who complained here said that he/she called migri to clarify, only email. I find this strange... Either it is finnish language problem or just lazines to take matter under control or what else? Lets find the core issue here. Something is still unsaid...

[TUserFin]

There's no such thing as applying for citizenship based on work. You apply when you fulfill the requirements and you have a valid permit to live in Finland.

Not long ago I've read in this same forum a woman saying she got the citizenship and she has never worked a day in Finland in all these years, probably being a housewife. In fact, having a job and working is not even necessary for citizenship application, you can just show Kela benefits and your spouse's income and it's accepted. That's something I definitely agree should change if the new laws pass.

Yes, there is such thing. There is application based on work, asulym, family ties, or if you had finnish grandma - all of these applications have different processing time. The work-based is shortest.

[TUserFin]

Note from migri website

"The number of applications in the queue includes applications that have same grounds as your application". They had to tell you about this in service center. It means that migri have allocated different personal who handle application based on your grounds with different speed. So, those who wait 10 months or more, what are your grounds and is your country on the list including Russia/Belorussia? Just share or just stop complaining )))

[Auringon_kukka]

Applying for Citizenship 2024--new thread

For everyone's information, I have started a new thread for 2024 on the main page. Looking forward to seeing all of you there.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!

can you please share the link, i couldn't find it

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[Aasinkinttu]

I think I've read almost all 91 pages of this thread in random order Interesting things!

It seems there is not a 100% consistent or clear pattern with the placements in the que and decision time, though; some theories were born from the few patterns that have been found.

Some of the processing seems to be increasingly automated.
Most notable, the apparent processing changes during/immediately after ''korona aika'' appear to have been most significant.
2020 - 2021 applications seem to have longest waiting times.
As of September 2023, it is not always required to visit service point. (This is situational and would require "strong authentication" credentials to not be required to visit.)
Perhaps there have been more speedy (6month/under decisions) in year 2023 compared to years prior.

Anyway, I'll join the fun! Who wants to race?

Application finalised/submitted: First week December 2023
Migri visit: Second week December 2023
Stage 2: Second week December 2023
Placement in que: 8400s

Hello!
So is that so that you have been moved to the stage 2 right after the migri visit? This has happened to me as well (applied October 2022) and apparently it is not that common

Yes; this is exactly the case! I think I have read your posts on this matter and it seemed you were the only one to experience this. (Sorry if I'm confusing you another individual)

If memory serves, I've had the same thing happen with all of my residence permit applications too. Immediately after service point visit, I remember they were released for processing on the same day. So, I was probably even expecting this to be the case for citizenship as well. ..untill I started reading posts on here

[m02b06]

I think I've read almost all 91 pages of this thread in random order Interesting things!

It seems there is not a 100% consistent or clear pattern with the placements in the que and decision time, though; some theories were born from the few patterns that have been found.

Some of the processing seems to be increasingly automated.
Most notable, the apparent processing changes during/immediately after ''korona aika'' appear to have been most significant.
2020 - 2021 applications seem to have longest waiting times.
As of September 2023, it is not always required to visit service point. (This is situational and would require "strong authentication" credentials to not be required to visit.)
Perhaps there have been more speedy (6month/under decisions) in year 2023 compared to years prior.

Anyway, I'll join the fun! Who wants to race?

Application finalised/submitted: First week December 2023
Migri visit: Second week December 2023
Stage 2: Second week December 2023
Placement in que: 8400s

Hello!
So is that so that you have been moved to the stage 2 right after the migri visit? This has happened to me as well (applied October 2022) and apparently it is not that common

Yes; this is exactly the case! I think I have read your posts on this matter and it seemed you were the only one to experience this. (Sorry if I'm confusing you another individual)

If memory serves, I've had the same thing happen with all of my residence permit applications too. Immediately after service point visit, I remember they were released for processing on the same day. So, I was probably even expecting this to be the case for citizenship as well. ..untill I started reading posts on here

Okay! However, it is the first time it happens to my migri application and it felt super weird, I called and emailed migri to check but the response has always been that the application is fine Nice to meet someone with the same experience here

[Aasinkinttu]

Hello!
So is that so that you have been moved to the stage 2 right after the migri visit? This has happened to me as well (applied October 2022) and apparently it is not that common

Yes; this is exactly the case! I think I have read your posts on this matter and it seemed you were the only one to experience this. (Sorry if I'm confusing you another individual)

If memory serves, I've had the same thing happen with all of my residence permit applications too. Immediately after service point visit, I remember they were released for processing on the same day. So, I was probably even expecting this to be the case for citizenship as well. ..untill I started reading posts on here

Okay! However, it is the first time it happens to my migri application and it felt super weird, I called and emailed migri to check but the response has always been that the application is fine Nice to meet someone with the same experience here

Interesting. And do I understand correctly that you're still waiting?

I wonder if there are similarities in our applications.
Care to share more details about yours? For example: service point, home country, current region, etc.

From US, came as a student. Been building towards my chosen career (which is related to my degree) ever since. Bounced between Lappi, Kainuu, Pohjois Pohjanmaa and now settling in a small town on the West Coast.

[m02b06]

Yes; this is exactly the case! I think I have read your posts on this matter and it seemed you were the only one to experience this. (Sorry if I'm confusing you another individual)

If memory serves, I've had the same thing happen with all of my residence permit applications too. Immediately after service point visit, I remember they were released for processing on the same day. So, I was probably even expecting this to be the case for citizenship as well. ..untill I started reading posts on here

Okay! However, it is the first time it happens to my migri application and it felt super weird, I called and emailed migri to check but the response has always been that the application is fine Nice to meet someone with the same experience here

Interesting. And do I understand correctly that you're still waiting?

I wonder if there are similarities in our applications.
Care to share more details about yours? For example: service point, home country, current region, etc.

From US, came as a student. Been building towards my chosen career (which is related to my degree) ever since. Bounced between Lappi, Kainuu, Pohjois Pohjanmaa and now settling in a small town on the West Coast.

Yes, I am still waiting, currently on 15th month. I am from Russia. I also came as a student to Oulu, then moved south and have been working almost the whole time in the field related to the degree. Applied in Lahti service point in October 2022. I am on the family member residence card atm. So I think our cases are quite different My guess is that for my case someone might have ”misclicked” it into processing, as was suggested in this thread. I think it is quite unusual though that this has happened to yours every time

[Aasinkinttu]

Okay! However, it is the first time it happens to my migri application and it felt super weird, I called and emailed migri to check but the response has always been that the application is fine Nice to meet someone with the same experience here

Interesting. And do I understand correctly that you're still waiting?

I wonder if there are similarities in our applications.
Care to share more details about yours? For example: service point, home country, current region, etc.

From US, came as a student. Been building towards my chosen career (which is related to my degree) ever since. Bounced between Lappi, Kainuu, Pohjois Pohjanmaa and now settling in a small town on the West Coast.

Yes, I am still waiting, currently on 15th month. I am from Russia. I also came as a student to Oulu, then moved south and have been working almost the whole time in the field related to the degree. Applied in Lahti service point in October 2022. I am on the family member residence card atm. So I think our cases are quite different My guess is that for my case someone might have ”misclicked” it into processing, as was suggested in this thread. I think it is quite unusual though that this has happened to yours every time

Ok. Slightly different cases with ours.

I spoke with some of my Russian friends who came to Finland around the same time (originaly to study). One applied in Oulu and other in Rovaniemi. Both took approximately 6 months. (one application started August 2022 and other in February 2023.) One guy documented absolutely everything and that also included some relationships in Finland to justify his A permit, along with his work, etc. He started around 4k in que and received decision in the 1k. The other included only bare minimum in her application, started between 6-8k in que, and received decision in the 4k. Neither remember how quickly they went to stage 2. Both had 4yr A residence permit - not permanent.

I wonder if the area that one is living in Finland has an effect. Or how much the service point matters, etc.
Maybe having a permanent residence permit could also some how affect the processing?