Applying for Citizenship 2024

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Toololainen
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Toololainen » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:38 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:32 pm
Toololainen wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:24 pm


They do the right thing. People with permits regardless of their status except the temp permit should get the same treatment. I don't see any reason why it should be 3 or 4 years for refugees or people who got international protection, they still have right to live in the country. There is no pressing reason.
One thing is to make things equal other thing is to make more complex. As I understood, while refugee status is pending processing, residence time is not counted and so on... also, time on international protection is not counted as residence time, only residence permit time is counted. So, for some people waiting time might go much above 8 years in reality. And this is just the first law out of 3 coming... with salary, language and civic test requirements next
I still don't see any problem. Until, the decision is made for refugees or for any other resident permit applicants, you are just waiting for the decision. Residence period should always be tied to your residence permit. The new government is fixing these existing problems. They are doing a great job.



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TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:01 pm

Toololainen wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:38 pm

I still don't see any problem. Until, the decision is made for refugees or for any other resident permit applicants, you are just waiting for the decision. Residence period should always be tied to your residence permit. The new government is fixing these existing problems. They are doing a great job.
It depends how much in reality people will be waiting for citezenship. But I understand that this topic worries only some people. There are a lot of people who came here for work from countries which take 0 refugees. Does not make sense to discuss here foreign topic.

sillygoose
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by sillygoose » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:03 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:04 pm
sillygoose wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:55 pm

Thank you for the info. Can you quote the part of the draft where it says that applications in process will not be affected by the proposed law?

Kansalaisuushakemusten käsittelyajat
vaihtelevat muutamista kuukausista yli kahteen vuoteen. Ehdotettujen muutosten tullessa voi-
maan on siten vireillä sellaisia kansalaisuushakemuksia, joiden tekijät ovat jättäneet hakemuk-
sensa siksi, että he ovat arvioineet täyttävänsä edellytykset voimassa olevien kansalaisuuslain
säännösten ja Maahanmuuttoviraston verkkosivuilla olevien tietojen perusteella. Tässä esityk-
sessä ehdotettuja muutoksia on siten perusteltua soveltaa niihin hakemuksiin, jotka tehdään
tässä esityksessä ehdotettujen muutosten tultua voimaan.
This is great! Now I can wait in peace knowing that these changes won’t affect my application in any way.

applicant2024
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by applicant2024 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:25 am

Hi,

I have applied for F citizenship last week according the current law I have met all the requirements. will the new law affect on me in August 2024? does someone know or can confirm it please?

Aasinkinttu
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Aasinkinttu » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:49 am

applicant2024 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:25 am
Hi,

I have applied for F citizenship last week according the current law I have met all the requirements. will the new law affect on me in August 2024? does someone know or can confirm it please?
According to the freshly provided information, which can be read immediately above your asked and answered question; no.

applicant2024
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by applicant2024 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:51 pm

Aasinkinttu wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:49 am
applicant2024 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:25 am
Hi,

I have applied for F citizenship last week according the current law I have met all the requirements. will the new law affect on me in August 2024? does someone know or can confirm it please?
According to the freshly provided information, which can be read immediately above your asked and answered question; no.
ah thank you, sorry I haven't read the previous messages, I'm new here. thanks for your reply.

Maaria
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Maaria » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:22 pm

Aasinkinttu wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:49 am
applicant2024 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:25 am
Hi,

I have applied for F citizenship last week according the current law I have met all the requirements. will the new law affect on me in August 2024? does someone know or can confirm it please?
According to the freshly provided information, which can be read immediately above your asked and answered question; no.
So anyone who submits application by 31st July should not be affected?

riku2
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:01 pm

Maaria wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:22 pm
So anyone who submits application by 31st July should not be affected?
They have not actually passed the new law yet, just proposed it for discussion. So do not write the date in your diary just yet.

Also bear in mind that you often have to visit the migri office after an online application to show your documents etc and you do not enter the processing queue until the visit (not when you submit the form). They should hopefully clarify this closer to the date (if the law is indeed passed).

antran96
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by antran96 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:28 pm

just_passing_by wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:49 pm
This week's stats:
Total processed: ~174
Total processed with queue >4000: ~118
Approximate processing range with queue >4000: 10600/310/2023 - 10800/310/2023

In other words, nothing really new.

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Thanks for the updates! How do I read this chart properly if my diary number is 3xx/310/2023? I applied in Jan 2023 and my current queue number is 35xx

just_passing_by
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:47 am

antran96 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:28 pm
Thanks for the updates! How do I read this chart properly if my diary number is 3xx/310/2023? I applied in Jan 2023 and my current queue number is 35xx
X axis shows queue number.
You can project your queue position onto the graph and see where your application is.

I post this graph mostly to show which applications Migri processes currently and where they are situated on the graph, because it was discovered a while ago that Migri does not only process applications in the head of the queue, but also takes applications from the middle of the queue at ~5000 queue mark.

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:39 pm

just_passing_by wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:47 am
antran96 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:28 pm
Thanks for the updates! How do I read this chart properly if my diary number is 3xx/310/2023? I applied in Jan 2023 and my current queue number is 35xx
X axis shows queue number.
You can project your queue position onto the graph and see where your application is.

I post this graph mostly to show which applications Migri processes currently and where they are situated on the graph, because it was discovered a while ago that Migri does not only process applications in the head of the queue, but also takes applications from the middle of the queue at ~5000 queue mark.
Could you let me know what is y axis here? kiitos

karhu86
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by karhu86 » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:22 pm

any good news from the 2022 people? anyone is getting close to the 21 month boundary?

Indian_Dude
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Indian_Dude » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:01 pm

karhu86 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:22 pm
any good news from the 2022 people? anyone is getting close to the 21 month boundary?
Waiting More than 23 months.

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:24 pm

Indian_Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:01 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:22 pm
any good news from the 2022 people? anyone is getting close to the 21 month boundary?
Waiting More than 23 months.

Did you come here on a tourist visa?

Indian_Dude
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Indian_Dude » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:27 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:24 pm
Indian_Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:01 pm
karhu86 wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:22 pm
any good news from the 2022 people? anyone is getting close to the 21 month boundary?
Waiting More than 23 months.

Did you come here on a tourist visa?
Nope, When I came here that time I had 4 years Germany schengen visa.


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