Applying for Citizenship 2024

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kriffer
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by kriffer » Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:15 pm

mamutti wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:53 am
Hi guys 😇

Do we have any great news from people who have applied in 2022? 😀
not yet, applied in june 2022, still waiting in queue (num. 176 x)



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TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:24 pm

kriffer wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:15 pm
mamutti wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:53 am
Hi guys 😇

Do we have any great news from people who have applied in 2022? 😀
not yet, applied in june 2022, still waiting in queue (num. 176 x)
I know people who got recently decision within 21 months and some weeks. You will get it soon

P_Tran
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by P_Tran » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:08 am

Hi all,

This is actually my first time posting here, but I have been following this forum for quite some time :) Many useful info have been shared in this forum, which are really useful (or at least it helps me to be patiently waiting for a decision, knowing I’m not the only one 🙂)

Finally my day has come (quite surprising, to be honest, because I received my decision at 6:30pm, on the same day I sent additional payslips etc.). Below is my timeline with queue number. Hope it will help for data collection!

Background: Came to Finland on 2018 as a student - 3 year visa B + 2.5 years visa A (family ties). Have been working part-time during study, full-time since 2021. Currently, back to study and working part-time. My country is not on the list.

18.08.2023 visit Migri
03.09 7724
10.09 7655
17.09 7652
2.10 7546
26.10 7218
31.10 7127
24.11 6651
05.12 6456
15.12 6288
19.12 6154
28.12 5996
03.01.2024 5916
12.01 5721
15.01 5696
19.01 5602
24.01 5523 - move to step 2: processing
25.01 5496
26.01 5473
28.01 5460
01.02 5403
02.02 5386
05.02 5365
07.02 5320
15.02 5222 - no news/request from Migri. But I send additional payslips, bank account statement in the morning - received decision around 6:30pm

Indian_Dude
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Indian_Dude » Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:22 am

TUserFin wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:54 pm
Indian_Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:27 pm

Nope, When I came here that time I had 4 years Germany schengen visa.
Schengen visa is a tourist visa. Migri estimate time for your case is 29 months. I came here from Hong Kong, before coming, I went to finnish embassy in Hong Kong, applied for a residence permit, got it in 2 months, after that went to Finland, so for my case estimate is 21 months
In Germany there is no Finnish embassy. Therefore, I need to come Finland using my Schengen visa to apply Finland Visa. Then I go back to Germany. It is the right way to do.
I was not start to stay here in Finland with my Germany Schengen Visa. I moved to Finland from Germany when I got my Finnish Visa.

jokulalala
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jokulalala » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:05 am

P_Tran wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:08 am
Hi all,

This is actually my first time posting here, but I have been following this forum for quite some time :) Many useful info have been shared in this forum, which are really useful (or at least it helps me to be patiently waiting for a decision, knowing I’m not the only one 🙂)

Finally my day has come (quite surprising, to be honest, because I received my decision at 6:30pm, on the same day I sent additional payslips etc.). Below is my timeline with queue number. Hope it will help for data collection!

Background: Came to Finland on 2018 as a student - 3 year visa B + 2.5 years visa A (family ties). Have been working part-time during study, full-time since 2021. Currently, back to study and working part-time. My country is not on the list.

18.08.2023 visit Migri
03.09 7724
10.09 7655
17.09 7652
2.10 7546
26.10 7218
31.10 7127
24.11 6651
05.12 6456
15.12 6288
19.12 6154
28.12 5996
03.01.2024 5916
12.01 5721
15.01 5696
19.01 5602
24.01 5523 - move to step 2: processing
25.01 5496
26.01 5473
28.01 5460
01.02 5403
02.02 5386
05.02 5365
07.02 5320
15.02 5222 - no news/request from Migri. But I send additional payslips, bank account statement in the morning - received decision around 6:30pm
Congratulations.

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Auringon_kukka » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:58 pm

P_Tran wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:08 am
Hi all,

This is actually my first time posting here, but I have been following this forum for quite some time :) Many useful info have been shared in this forum, which are really useful (or at least it helps me to be patiently waiting for a decision, knowing I’m not the only one 🙂)

Finally my day has come (quite surprising, to be honest, because I received my decision at 6:30pm, on the same day I sent additional payslips etc.). Below is my timeline with queue number. Hope it will help for data collection!
Congratulations, another quick decision! :D :D :D :D :D :D

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:19 pm

Indian_Dude wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:22 am
TUserFin wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:54 pm
Indian_Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:27 pm

Nope, When I came here that time I had 4 years Germany schengen visa.
Schengen visa is a tourist visa. Migri estimate time for your case is 29 months. I came here from Hong Kong, before coming, I went to finnish embassy in Hong Kong, applied for a residence permit, got it in 2 months, after that went to Finland, so for my case estimate is 21 months
In Germany there is no Finnish embassy. Therefore, I need to come Finland using my Schengen visa to apply Finland Visa. Then I go back to Germany. It is the right way to do.
I was not start to stay here in Finland with my Germany Schengen Visa. I moved to Finland from Germany when I got my Finnish Visa.
This is you need to ask migri, estimate time for your application, because, technically, you applied in Finland

oct.2023.RU.IT
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by oct.2023.RU.IT » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:10 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:19 pm

This is you need to ask migri, estimate time for your application, because, technically, you applied in Finland
As I understand, when estimator asks you if you arrived without residence permit means "are you asylum seeker?". And it basically goes to separate queue. That's why in this thread people mention another people got citizenship fast even if they applied for RP in Finland
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quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:14 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:10 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:19 pm

This is you need to ask migri, estimate time for your application, because, technically, you applied in Finland
As I understand, when estimator asks you if you arrived without residence permit means "are you asylum seeker?". And it basically goes to separate queue. That's why in this thread people mention another people got citizenship fast even if they applied for RP in Finland
You are correct. I don't know why that other user here keeps on insisting that wrong info. :lol: I know so many who applied rp while inside finland and still got citizenship within 5-6 months. Also, Kamu chatbot info is also more up to date. It's the refugees who get the unusually long duration of processing (or others who have complicated cases in migri's POV).

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:30 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:10 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:19 pm

This is you need to ask migri, estimate time for your application, because, technically, you applied in Finland
As I understand, when estimator asks you if you arrived without residence permit means "are you asylum seeker?". And it basically goes to separate queue. That's why in this thread people mention another people got citizenship fast even if they appli
ed for RP in Finland
I dont think there is a queue for asylum seekers. Sometimes, usual delay for those people only b.c. it takes time to identify them.
There is also a hint on migri website about this
"If you are an EU-citizen, answer ‘No’, because you are not required to have a residence permit."

i.e. just revert this: if a person from non-EU and did not have a residence permit

I know one more person how came here on a travel visa and now also waiting 23 month. I also get used that migri process is quite clear, there if asylym seekers need to wait longer they would mention that. This is Finland by the end of the day, and all laws and processes are clear. People who came here from countries where everything done with bribes or relatives support usually had a difficulty to understand this, and start to build own theories: you need work to get citezenship faster etc etc
The best way, of course, is to ask migiri.


And yes, a lot of people with and without residence permit get citezenship in 5 months, they just managed get to a faster queue (looks like by chance)

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:37 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:14 pm
oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:10 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:19 pm

This is you need to ask migri, estimate time for your application, because, technically, you applied in Finland
As I understand, when estimator asks you if you arrived without residence permit means "are you asylum seeker?". And it basically goes to separate queue. That's why in this thread people mention another people got citizenship fast even if they applied for RP in Finland
You are correct. I don't know why that other user here keeps on insisting that wrong info. :lol: I know so many who applied rp while inside finland and still got citizenship within 5-6 months. Also, Kamu chatbot info is also more up to date. It's the refugees who get the unusually long duration of processing (or others who have complicated cases in migri's POV).
This is sort of discrimination of refugees from your side, as you don't have supporting information, but making guesses and laughs. Weird.

Lucius
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Lucius » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:48 pm

Citizenship application in other countries are fast and less stressful unlike finland where some people have to wait for more than a year to get it processed.

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:48 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:37 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:14 pm
oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:10 pm


As I understand, when estimator asks you if you arrived without residence permit means "are you asylum seeker?". And it basically goes to separate queue. That's why in this thread people mention another people got citizenship fast even if they applied for RP in Finland
You are correct. I don't know why that other user here keeps on insisting that wrong info. :lol: I know so many who applied rp while inside finland and still got citizenship within 5-6 months. Also, Kamu chatbot info is also more up to date. It's the refugees who get the unusually long duration of processing (or others who have complicated cases in migri's POV).
This is sort of discrimination of refugees from your side, as you don't have supporting information, but making guesses and laughs. Weird.
I already explained this and gave supporting information a week ago or so when I quoted you, but you chose to ignore it. You can backread if you want to refresh your memory. I find it odd and ridiculous hence the laughter emoji that you keep sharing your wrong info here with others despite what I said few weeks ago.

There is no discrimination. It's only information from Kamu chatbot (i.e., migri). Complain to them if you want.

Have a good day!

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:48 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:37 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:14 pm


You are correct. I don't know why that other user here keeps on insisting that wrong info. :lol: I know so many who applied rp while inside finland and still got citizenship within 5-6 months. Also, Kamu chatbot info is also more up to date. It's the refugees who get the unusually long duration of processing (or others who have complicated cases in migri's POV).
This is sort of discrimination of refugees from your side, as you don't have supporting information, but making guesses and laughs. Weird.
I already explained this and gave supporting information a week ago or so when I quoted you, but you chose to ignore it. You can backread if you want to refresh your memory. I find it odd and ridiculous hence the laughter emoji that you keep sharing your wrong info here with others despite what I said few weeks ago.

There is no discrimination. It's only information from Kamu chatbot (i.e., migri). Complain to them if you want.

Have a good day!
I dont want to bother and search smth in a history you said one day. Your claims do not support theory why some non refugees are waiting 23 months and have a common thing - they came here on travel visa. Also, you cannot provide any official reference to migri website

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:56 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:48 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:37 pm


This is sort of discrimination of refugees from your side, as you don't have supporting information, but making guesses and laughs. Weird.
I already explained this and gave supporting information a week ago or so when I quoted you, but you chose to ignore it. You can backread if you want to refresh your memory. I find it odd and ridiculous hence the laughter emoji that you keep sharing your wrong info here with others despite what I said few weeks ago.

There is no discrimination. It's only information from Kamu chatbot (i.e., migri). Complain to them if you want.

Have a good day!
I dont want to bother and search smth in a history you said one day. Your claims do not support theory why some non refugees are waiting 23 months and have a common thing - they came here on travel visa. Also, you cannot provide any official reference to migri website

Once again....KAMU CHATBOT :lol: that is part of MIGRI'S official website. idk I can't do anything else if you don't understand this part.. Try that chat bot one day maybe.


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