Holland v Germany an example for everyone

[Guest]

Jut out of curiosity, how many times did Wurms grab Nisterooy's shirt in the penalty area? Man, that was some serious dirty stuff going on all the time.
If Van Nisterooy's had a share of Sweden Ljumberj's talent and he'd been awarded 2 or 3 penalty kicks

I was wondering if I were the only one seeing that!
Man! That twat was almost IN Van Nistelrooij's shirt. What an åss!

And I thought that they'd keep an extra eye on Schwalbes? Those German's had a load of them again. I think I saw maybe three or four genuine tackles on Germans during the whole match

[JasonS]

At first I thought there were a lot of empty seats

Yes the orange fans sat so still I too mistook them for seats As for the game neither team impressed me very much. Where were those 'Dutch Masters'? It's still early days though I know.

[pierrot]

If Van Nisterooy's had a share of Sweden Ljumberj's talent and he'd been awarded 2 or 3 penalty kicks

If Van Horseface had ANY talent he would have made a few more goals against the germans.
But what to expect from a guy claiming 'This is not just about football history it's about real history and what went on 60 years ago.'
The germans were very nervous when Van Hooijdonk came in. Now that is a great player.

[ajdias]

Sorry, I meant theatrical (I've edited the post) talent. That swede just dove in the penalty area but it's ALWAYS and ONLY us "latinos"/southerners who get bad name for it - fairly deserved I must add..

[luddite]

If Van Horseface had ANY talent he would have made a few more goals against the germans.

Nice try pierrot but I think his goal record speaks for itself:

United:

Appearances with Club
144

Goals Scored with Club
109



Personally I reckon he's the third best striker in the world

[pierrot]

If Van Horseface had ANY talent he would have made a few more goals against the germans.

Nice try pierrot but I think his goal record speaks for itself:

United:

Appearances with Club
144

Goals Scored with Club
109



Personally I reckon he's the third best striker in the world

And how many of these were penalties? how many times was he "fouled" in the penalty zone?
He wouldnt even appear in my top ten. But then he is not playing in my favorite team which might make me a bit more objective

[luddite]

And how many of these were penalties?

Not certain but I think 21:

http://www.rvn10.com/stats.html

He wouldnt even appear in my top ten.

Your mad Im obviously not an Arsenal fan but I still recognise Henry as the second best striker in the world behind Schevchenko

[pierrot]

And how many of these were penalties?

Not certain but I think 21:

http://www.rvn10.com/stats.html

He wouldnt even appear in my top ten.

Your mad Im obviously not an Arsenal fan but I still recognise Henry as the second best striker in the world behind Schevchenko

Trezeguet, Morientes, Raul, Van Hooijdonk, Makaay, Ronaldo, etc...

[luddite]

Trezeguet, Makaay

No way dude

Morientes, Raul, Ronaldo

All top ten I agree

Van Hooijdonk

Nope

[pierrot]

And I thought that they'd keep an extra eye on Schwalbes? Those German's had a load of them again. I think I saw maybe three or four genuine tackles on Germans during the whole match

http://www.lotto-bw.de/images/40.mpeg

[pierrot]

Trezeguet, Makaay

No way dude

Morientes, Raul, Ronaldo

All top ten I agree

Van Hooijdonk

Nope

But then again you think that Christiano Ronaldo is europe´s biggest talent (and he funnily plays at guess where... MANU!)....
So I think I can live with your unbiased and founded opinion

[luddite]

But then again you think that Christiano Ronaldo is europe´s biggest talent (and he funnily plays at guess where... MANU!)....
So I think I can live with your unbiased and founded opinion

Well after his nice outside of the foot cross to set up Portugals second goal today theres a few Portugese that may agree with me

[pierrot]

But then again you think that Christiano Ronaldo is europe´s biggest talent (and he funnily plays at guess where... MANU!)....
So I think I can live with your unbiased and founded opinion

Well after his nice outside of the foot cross to set up Portugals second goal today theres a few Portugese that may agree with me

Of course portugese and Manucians will agree with you
But there are other teams and nations ...

[luddite]

Of course portugese and Manucians will agree with you
But there are other teams and nations ...

Come on admit it pierrot he's looked alright in these two games so far in the contest and he's only come on late in the game as a sub

Check out his promo vid. Funky D&B track

If Portugal beat Spain and Ronaldo scores I want you to admit i'm right

[pierrot]

Of course portugese and Manucians will agree with you
But there are other teams and nations ...

Come on admit it pierrot he's looked alright in these two games so far in the contest and he's only come on late in the game as a sub

Check out his promo vid. Funky D&B track

If Portugal beat Spain and Ronaldo scores I want you to admit i'm right

Dont get me wrong. Its not like he is a complete zero.
He is an young player and he has potential. But I am very sceptic with all kind of people claiming about "the biggest talent in europe". Every country probably has 5 such players and very often they dont reallly hold the high expectations. Sometimes they simply stay "eternal talents".
Its also very depending of what perspective you have. Lets take an example: For ManU and partly England, Cantona was a great player. For the rest of Europe, France included, he was at best medium.
With what I have seen so far I actually dont believe that Portugal will beat Spain
Lets hope switzerland isnt too good tomorrow