EU pregnancy

[Sfin]

Hi,

I am a native EU citizen, and my Finnish partner is pregnant. The baby is due in 3 months.
I try to move to Finland before our baby is born.

I have applied to migri, but they told me it's not possible to move until after the baby is born.
We have been dating for 2 years but haven't been cohabiting. We have presented a certificate of pregnancy from neuvola.

So Finland is not supporting me to be present when the baby is born or to support my Finnish partner in the last months??
If I move after the baby is born, I will be consumed by kela papers, moving my stuff to Finland, finding a new job, etc
There won't be any time to focus on the baby. Is this the way things are done in Finland?

Any advice how I could move before? To make this any little bit more humane?
I expected it not to be too difficult being an EU citizen, but I feel so disappointed and lost now...

Any advice please

[big_foot]

Hi,

I am a native EU citizen, and my Finnish partner is pregnant. The baby is due in 3 months.
I try to move to Finland before our baby is born.

I have applied to migri, but they told me it's not possible to move until after the baby is born.
We have been dating for 2 years but haven't been cohabiting. We have presented a certificate of pregnancy from neuvola.

So Finland is not supporting me to be present when the baby is born or to support my Finnish partner in the last months??
If I move after the baby is born, I will be consumed by kela papers, moving my stuff to Finland, finding a new job, etc
There won't be any time to focus on the baby. Is this the way things are done in Finland?

Any advice how I could move before? To make this any little bit more humane?
I expected it not to be too difficult being an EU citizen, but I feel so disappointed and lost now...

Any advice please

Aren't you as a EU citizen allowed to stay in Finland (or any other EU country) for up to 90 days without any conditions?

[Auringon_kukka]

Hi,

I am a native EU citizen, and my Finnish partner is pregnant. The baby is due in 3 months.
I try to move to Finland before our baby is born.

I have applied to migri, but they told me it's not possible to move until after the baby is born.
We have been dating for 2 years but haven't been cohabiting. We have presented a certificate of pregnancy from neuvola.

So Finland is not supporting me to be present when the baby is born or to support my Finnish partner in the last months??
If I move after the baby is born, I will be consumed by kela papers, moving my stuff to Finland, finding a new job, etc
There won't be any time to focus on the baby. Is this the way things are done in Finland?

Any advice how I could move before? To make this any little bit more humane?
I expected it not to be too difficult being an EU citizen, but I feel so disappointed and lost now...

Any advice please

The following is taken from https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/r ... eu-citizen:

"As an EU citizen, you have the right to move to any EU country to live, work, study, look for a job or retire.

You can stay in another EU country for up to 3 months without registering there but you may need to report your presence. The only requirement is to hold a valid national identity card or passport. If you want to stay longer than 3 months, you may need to register your residence.

In many EU countries, you need to carry an identity card or passport with you at all times. In these countries, you could be fined or temporarily detained if you leave your identity documents at home - but you cannot be forced to return to your home country for this reason alone."

[Sfin]

Aren't you as a EU citizen allowed to stay in Finland (or any other EU country) for up to 90 days without any conditions?

Correct, but then I wouldn't be covered by social security (päivärahat / daily allowance).

[betelgeuse]

I am a native EU citizen, and my Finnish partner is pregnant. The baby is due in 3 months.
I try to move to Finland before our baby is born.

I have applied to migri, but they told me it's not possible to move until after the baby is born.
We have been dating for 2 years but haven't been cohabiting. We have presented a certificate of pregnancy from neuvola.

So Finland is not supporting me to be present when the baby is born or to support my Finnish partner in the last months??

You can use your EHIC to access medical services before registration. You can reset the 90 day clock by visiting, for example, Estonia (keep receipts). As others have said this will carry you over until birth.

If I move after the baby is born, I will be consumed by kela papers, moving my stuff to Finland, finding a new job, etc
There won't be any time to focus on the baby. Is this the way things are done in Finland?

Unless the category below works you will need to finish some paperwork after birth but you will then be entitled to Finnish family benefits.

"If a child has two parents, each parent can get parental allowance for 160 working days. You can give up and turn over a maximum of 63 working days of your quota of 160 parental allowance days to another person who is caring for the child. "

https://www.kela.fi/on-parental-leave

If you two share the load and your partner uses the the leave, you can use this time to advance your jobseeking etc.

Any advice how I could move before? To make this any little bit more humane?
I expected it not to be too difficult being an EU citizen, but I feel so disappointed and lost now...

Look at the sufficient financial resources category and your partner being your sponsor. You can also use your savings to register under that category if you have some.

https://migri.fi/en/registration-of-right-of-residence

[browndude]

I am a native EU citizen, and my Finnish partner is pregnant. The baby is due in 3 months.
I try to move to Finland before our baby is born.

I have applied to migri, but they told me it's not possible to move until after the baby is born.
We have been dating for 2 years but haven't been cohabiting. We have presented a certificate of pregnancy from neuvola.

So Finland is not supporting me to be present when the baby is born or to support my Finnish partner in the last months??

You can use your EHIC to access medical services before registration. You can reset the 90 day clock by visiting, for example, Estonia (keep receipts). As others have said this will carry you over until birth.

If I move after the baby is born, I will be consumed by kela papers, moving my stuff to Finland, finding a new job, etc
There won't be any time to focus on the baby. Is this the way things are done in Finland?

Unless the category below works you will need to finish some paperwork after birth but you will then be entitled to Finnish family benefits.

"If a child has two parents, each parent can get parental allowance for 160 working days. You can give up and turn over a maximum of 63 working days of your quota of 160 parental allowance days to another person who is caring for the child. "

https://www.kela.fi/on-parental-leave

If you two share the load and your partner uses the the leave, you can use this time to advance your jobseeking etc.

Any advice how I could move before? To make this any little bit more humane?
I expected it not to be too difficult being an EU citizen, but I feel so disappointed and lost now...

Look at the sufficient financial resources category and your partner being your sponsor. You can also use your savings to register under that category if you have some.

https://migri.fi/en/registration-of-right-of-residence

Can you really reset the 90 day clock by simply leaving the country for a short period and coming back? I always thought that the rule was for 90 days in a 180 day rolling period with or something like that.

[betelgeuse]

Can you really reset the 90 day clock by simply leaving the country for a short period and coming back? I always thought that the rule was for 90 days in a 180 day rolling period with or something like that.

90 days out of 180 is for third-country nationals. Using Estonia is described in the Migri FAQ.

I am an EU citizen and studying in Finland for six months. If I visit Estonia twice during the six months, do I need to register my right of residence in Finland?

You do not need to do so if you do not stay in Finland without a break for over three months. If, for example, you arrive in Finland in January and travel outside Finland in March and May, you do not need to register your residence. Keep the receipt or tickets of your journey, in case you need to prove later that you travelled abroad.

https://migri.fi/en/faq-eu-citizens

[betelgeuse]

Aren't you as a EU citizen allowed to stay in Finland (or any other EU country) for up to 90 days without any conditions?

Correct, but then I wouldn't be covered by social security (päivärahat / daily allowance).

See this about seeking a job in Finland and getting unemployment benefits from your current country of residence.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/w ... dex_en.htm

[Sfin]

All very helpful answers, thank you so much!

Unless the category below works you will need to finish some paperwork after birth but you will then be entitled to Finnish family benefits.

"If a child has two parents, each parent can get parental allowance for 160 working days. You can give up and turn over a maximum of 63 working days of your quota of 160 parental allowance days to another person who is caring for the child. "

https://www.kela.fi/on-parental-leave

Oh, I thought I had to move (about 6 months?) before birth to have right to those benefits.

See this about seeking a job in Finland and getting unemployment benefits from your current country of residence.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/w ... dex_en.htm

Unfortunately I have already used this, and my native EU country doesn't want to extend it.

[betelgeuse]

All very helpful answers, thank you so much!

Unless the category below works you will need to finish some paperwork after birth but you will then be entitled to Finnish family benefits.

"If a child has two parents, each parent can get parental allowance for 160 working days. You can give up and turn over a maximum of 63 working days of your quota of 160 parental allowance days to another person who is caring for the child. "

https://www.kela.fi/on-parental-leave

Oh, I thought I had to move (about 6 months?) before birth to have right to those benefits.

“You can be granted pregnancy and parental allowance if you are covered under the Finnish health insurance system.

If you move to Finland from another EU or EEA country, Switzerland or the United Kingdom and your country of departure pays you daily allowances for parents, your country of departure will usually continue paying your daily allowances for parents until the end. You cannot receive daily allowances for parents from Finland for the same period.

After the parental allowance period of the other country has ended, you can receive parental allowance from Finland if you have more parental allowance days in Finland than in your country of departure”

https://www.kela.fi/family-benefits-fro ... to-finland

I assume you wouldn’t be asking if the benefits are better in your current country of residence. Regardless your partner will be covered by the Finnish system.