Citizenship application 2025

[tomtomfin]

I received my decision today.
Applied: 3.6.2024
Verified and got diary number: 15.6.2024
In progress and got decision: 8.1.2024

Background: Asian, come as student in 8.2016, being employed since 5.2017

Congrats!!!!
Is it an automatic decision? Could you please check?

[kavdkv]

I received my decision today.
Applied: 3.6.2024
Verified and got diary number: 15.6.2024
In progress and got decision: 8.1.2024

Background: Asian, come as student in 8.2016, being employed since 5.2017

Congratulations! Do you mind sharing first two digits of your diary numbers.

[tv152]

I received my decision today.
Applied: 3.6.2024
Verified and got diary number: 15.6.2024
In progress and got decision: 8.1.2024

Background: Asian, come as student in 8.2016, being employed since 5.2017

Congrats!!!!
Is it an automatic decision? Could you please check?

yes, it said Automatic decision. Diary number starts at 57xx

[tomtomfin]

I received my decision today.
Applied: 3.6.2024
Verified and got diary number: 15.6.2024
In progress and got decision: 8.1.2024

Background: Asian, come as student in 8.2016, being employed since 5.2017

Congrats!!!!
Is it an automatic decision? Could you please check?

yes, it said Automatic decision. Diary number starts at 57xx

Last question plss, did you submit any supplement or did they request anything from you?

[tv152]

Congrats!!!!
Is it an automatic decision? Could you please check?

yes, it said Automatic decision. Diary number starts at 57xx

Last question plss, did you submit any supplement or did they request anything from you?

I updated my travel record in December without request from them, just used their new feature on application page

[tomtomfin]

yes, it said Automatic decision. Diary number starts at 57xx

Last question plss, did you submit any supplement or did they request anything from you?

I updated my travel record in December without request from them, just used their new feature on application page

Appreciate your reply. I wish you all the best!

[Auringon_kukka]

I received my decision today.
Applied: 3.6.2024
Verified and got diary number: 15.6.2024
In progress and got decision: 8.1.2025

Background: Asian, come as student in 8.2016, being employed since 5.2017

Congratulations

[TUserFin]

I just read the next citezenship law proposal which should go into effect from Oct 2025.
https://intermin.fi/hankkeet/hankesivu? ... 55:00/2023

It looks like it will be a lot of stuff, as security assesment will be introduced (among other things), and it will be applied to pending applications as well. The problem is that it might delay even more processing of applications, in my opinioin, as they mentioned in the draft they might require feedback from many authorities, including embassies abroad, and ceritificate from police in those countries where you lived more than 2 years.

[Sonora Desert]

Citizens of the European Union, how long have you been waiting for your decision?
I’ve been waiting for 9 months, since 5 April 2024. My number is 30xx.

[Maaria]

I just read the next citezenship law proposal which should go into effect from Oct 2025.
https://intermin.fi/hankkeet/hankesivu? ... 55:00/2023

It looks like it will be a lot of stuff, as security assesment will be introduced (among other things), and it will be applied to pending applications as well. The problem is that it might delay even more processing of applications, in my opinion, as they mentioned in the draft they might require feedback from many authorities, including embassies abroad, and certificate from police in those countries where you lived more than 2 years.

Doesn't the current law already have these? Like asking other authorities, including abroad, and the certificate from abroad. Look at the section 46 of the current law here.

https://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokse ... 070974.pdf

[TUserFin]

I just read the next citezenship law proposal which should go into effect from Oct 2025.
https://intermin.fi/hankkeet/hankesivu? ... 55:00/2023

It looks like it will be a lot of stuff, as security assesment will be introduced (among other things), and it will be applied to pending applications as well. The problem is that it might delay even more processing of applications, in my opinion, as they mentioned in the draft they might require feedback from many authorities, including embassies abroad, and certificate from police in those countries where you lived more than 2 years.

Doesn't the current law already have these? Like asking other authorities, including abroad, and the certificate from abroad. Look at the section 46 of the current law here.

https://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokse ... 070974.pdf

Thanks, yes, interesting, what they will apply to pending application than.

[approw1903]

I just read the next citezenship law proposal which should go into effect from Oct 2025.
https://intermin.fi/hankkeet/hankesivu? ... 55:00/2023

It looks like it will be a lot of stuff, as security assesment will be introduced (among other things), and it will be applied to pending applications as well. The problem is that it might delay even more processing of applications, in my opinion, as they mentioned in the draft they might require feedback from many authorities, including embassies abroad, and certificate from police in those countries where you lived more than 2 years.

Doesn't the current law already have these? Like asking other authorities, including abroad, and the certificate from abroad. Look at the section 46 of the current law here.

https://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokse ... 070974.pdf

Thanks, yes, interesting, what they will apply to pending application than.

What will be applied to pending applications, rather what will not be applied from the new act to the pending applications is mentioned in the end of the document.
This is the document I am referring to, from the same website.

https://api.hankeikkuna.fi/asiakirjat/5 ... 100038.PDF

They outline the exact differences between the existing law and the proposed changes to each section.

[TUserFin]

Doesn't the current law already have these? Like asking other authorities, including abroad, and the certificate from abroad. Look at the section 46 of the current law here.

https://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokse ... 070974.pdf

Thanks, yes, interesting, what they will apply to pending application than.

What will be applied to pending applications, rather what will not be applied from the new act to the pending applications is mentioned in the end of the document.
This is the document I am referring to, from the same website.

https://api.hankeikkuna.fi/asiakirjat/5 ... 100038.PDF

They outline the exact differences between the existing law and the proposed changes to each section.

I asked ChatGPT to create summary of that

The new changes related to security assessment in the proposed amendments to the Finnish Nationality Act primarily involve heightened scrutiny of national security concerns in granting citizenship. Here's a summary of these changes:

1. New Section: 6a § - Refusal of Citizenship on National Security Grounds
Provision Added: Citizenship will not be granted if there is reasonable suspicion that granting it could endanger national security or is contrary to the state's interest.
Key Points:
Even if the applicant fulfills all the regular requirements for citizenship, their application can be denied based on national security risks.
A broader assessment is allowed, considering not only explicit threats but also other significant reasons that may make granting citizenship contrary to Finland’s interests.
2. 13 § - General Conditions for Naturalization
Expanded Security Assessment: Citizenship can be denied if there is a justified reason to believe that naturalization:
Endangers state security or public order.
Is intended to exploit benefits associated with Finnish citizenship without the intention of settling in Finland.
Conflicts with the state's interest based on a comprehensive evaluation of the applicant's circumstances.
Summary of Impact
These amendments strengthen the state's ability to deny citizenship to individuals who pose potential risks to national security or public order. The inclusion of broader discretionary powers for assessing national security ensures a higher level of vigilance in the naturalization process.

So, basically, anyone can be investigated deeper, not sure what it means in practice.

[approw1903]

Thanks, yes, interesting, what they will apply to pending application than.

What will be applied to pending applications, rather what will not be applied from the new act to the pending applications is mentioned in the end of the document.
This is the document I am referring to, from the same website.

https://api.hankeikkuna.fi/asiakirjat/5 ... 100038.PDF

They outline the exact differences between the existing law and the proposed changes to each section.

I asked ChatGPT to create summary of that

The new changes related to security assessment in the proposed amendments to the Finnish Nationality Act primarily involve heightened scrutiny of national security concerns in granting citizenship. Here's a summary of these changes:

1. New Section: 6a § - Refusal of Citizenship on National Security Grounds
Provision Added: Citizenship will not be granted if there is reasonable suspicion that granting it could endanger national security or is contrary to the state's interest.
Key Points:
Even if the applicant fulfills all the regular requirements for citizenship, their application can be denied based on national security risks.
A broader assessment is allowed, considering not only explicit threats but also other significant reasons that may make granting citizenship contrary to Finland’s interests.
2. 13 § - General Conditions for Naturalization
Expanded Security Assessment: Citizenship can be denied if there is a justified reason to believe that naturalization:
Endangers state security or public order.
Is intended to exploit benefits associated with Finnish citizenship without the intention of settling in Finland.
Conflicts with the state's interest based on a comprehensive evaluation of the applicant's circumstances.
Summary of Impact
These amendments strengthen the state's ability to deny citizenship to individuals who pose potential risks to national security or public order. The inclusion of broader discretionary powers for assessing national security ensures a higher level of vigilance in the naturalization process.

So, basically, anyone can be investigated deeper, not sure what it means in practice.

Yes, this can lead to more bureaucratic chaos when it comes to decision-making, but hopefully as this proposal goes into discussion and vote, the wording will get polished and clearer, and not so open to interpretation.

[Koivu_]

Citizens of the European Union, how long have you been waiting for your decision?
I’ve been waiting for 9 months, since 5 April 2024. My number is 30xx.

EU citizen, waitink since 2nd of April 2024, 28xx