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Moving with a car

Post by cce » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:36 pm

Hi all,
Have read below item about bring in a car from the UK, we intend to move over to Finland and bring with us a LHD Land Rover Discovery. A few questions, Petrol or Diesel? Is there a tax on diesel cars? If so is it a one off or yearly tax? How much?

I'm English, other half is Finnish, read that Finns can't drive the car, could that possibly include my wife? That would be a non starter if its true!!!!!!!

Cheers for any info

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Re: Moving with a car

Post by superiorinferior » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:37 pm

cce wrote:Hi all,
Have read below item about bring in a car from the UK, we intend to move over to Finland and bring with us a LHD Land Rover Discovery. A few questions, Petrol or Diesel? Is there a tax on diesel cars? If so is it a one off or yearly tax? How much?

I'm English, other half is Finnish, read that Finns can't drive the car, could that possibly include my wife? That would be a non starter if its true!!!!!!!

Cheers for any info

:)
Finns drive on the right side of the road.

Hank will answer the rest, I reckon. :wink:

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:47 pm

If its a Land Rover, they generally tend to drive on the middle on the road...

Petrol costs 1.264 a liter. Diesel costs 0.856 a liter. Land Rover weighs apauttiarallaa 2150 kilos, Tax is 6,7 cents per starting 100 kilos/day
You do the math & calculate break-even point for kilometers.
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Post by tjawatts » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:09 pm

I would assume wife can drive the car. But anyone else one of you two would have to be in the car.

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Post by PeterF » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:34 pm

LHD drive does not neccesarily mean that it can be OK to drive for an extended period in Finland.
Someone else dig up the rules..Hank...
Registration...of foreign imported car..how long before needed.??
Check out that it conforms to Finnish traffic regulations.
How soon...??

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Post by Hank W. » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:41 pm

if its import to Finnish plates, has to be owned 6 months, has to pass the MOT & cetera. Needs an EU COC-paper. If its brought in as a tourist car it is at the grace of the customs to try and believe really skirting the rules isn't what was intended at all...
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Post by PeterF » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:08 pm

cce wrote: we intend to move over to Finland and bring with us a LHD Land Rover Discovery. :)
He seem to say that he is "moving here"...just happens to have a LHD...but otherwise it is the same as importing any other car from UK.
So at some time he has to register it..if it is not a tourist's car.

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Post by dusty_bin » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:38 pm

I do not have references but IIRC one can bring a car over as a tourist and then later register it, on the basis that one may change one's plans from being a tourist to being a full time resident. In fact that is exactly what happened to me.

What this means is that a foreign car can end up being here for a maximum of one year as long as the car has the requisite UK insurance and is taxed and tested according to UK regulations. At the end of this period one has to import the vehicle, or take it away. In my case, my car was taxed and tested before the journey and insured with border insurance for one year at the Tulli in Oulu, this gave the additional cover to make me 'road legal' in Finland. At the end of that time my car went into suspended animation until I gave it away as a gift. During that year I was stopped on many occasions, simply because the car was so unusual, never was there any question about the documentation.

*I think, I shuld have taken the car to Tulli in Helsinki at some point, but I never did and it never caused a problem.

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Post by graham » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:48 pm

We are also English (apologies!) and have bought a car over with us. Unfortunatly it has been here some time and has never met a customs official..pheww! The UK insurance, tax, mot etc has all expired so does anyone have any ideas of how to get round the nice customs man without drugging him, beating him up or anything else extreme? The car is my pride and joy and it would be nice to drive it legally here instead of lurking into the village after dark for a packet of ciggies. We tried emailing the customs question and answer site but they excelled themselves at not actually answering the question! Any help etc would be much appreciated.
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Post by Hank W. » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:22 pm

You could PM me. or rather find "John"(user here) about your predicament.

You need to do a whole confession... forgivee me customs officer, for I have imported a car...

naughty naughty tax-evading furriners naughty get spankd... :lol:
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Post by dave071061 » Sun May 01, 2005 11:36 am

dusty_bin wrote:I do not have references but IIRC one can bring a car over as a tourist and then later register it, on the basis that one may change one's plans from being a tourist to being a full time resident. In fact that is exactly what happened to me.
For tax reduction, it is also required that
the vehicle is declared for taxation as removal
goods within six months from the beginning
of the temporary stay.
If the vehicle has been
in Finland temporarily free of tax as a so-called
tourist car within the meaning of the second
subsection of Section 2 of the Car Tax Act and
the time limit for the tax-free use of the vehicle
has been extended by a written permit given by
the Customs District concerned, the declaration
may be lodged before the extended period expires
but not later than within 18 months from
the beginning of the temporary stay.
The above-mentioned obligation to declare
is a condition for granting the vehicle tax treatment
as part of removal goods. Thus a vehicle
which has been used in Finland but which
has not been declared for taxation as removal
goods within the prescribed time is not considered
being imported as removal goods.

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Thanks for the reference

Post by graham » Sun May 01, 2005 9:16 pm

Dear Dave

Thanks for the regs bit. It kind of confirms what I was starting to think,in the words of Futurama "I'm boned". If however you know any good forgers?!!!!! Please use private email if affermative reply
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Re: Moving with a car

Post by dave071061 » Mon May 02, 2005 5:55 pm

graham wrote:! The UK insurance, tax, mot etc has all expired
Sorry but you are scewed! As long as you had UK MOT or at least insurance you could have taken it over to sweden for a weekend, brought it back and claimed it was the first time you'd brought it into the country and you might have got away with it! However, they wil ask you to prove it's been used in the UK which means you need MOT and/or Tax going back unbroken for 6 months!

Unless you are going to the UK on holiday in the summer, in which case take it back with you, get all the docs up to date, wait 6 months and try again (Is it really worth the cost????)

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car!?!

Post by graham » Mon May 02, 2005 6:38 pm

We may not be totally screwed...all the UK paper work was up to date when we arrived and has expired since. I will claim total innocence and say that we used it as a moving vehicle but had no intention of keeping it here but in the meantime I had an accident (this bit IS true - work related not RTA) and have been unable to drive (also true) so it became stuck here and the easiest option is to register. Pleeeeeze Mr nice customs man.....Can't you just smell all the bull?
Lets just hope that the customs guy doesn't notice that it is an automatic car and that it is my left leg that is knackered! The other options open to me are a)plead insanity or b)blame the missus as the car is actually registered in her name (despite a total inability to drive).
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Post by Hank W. » Mon May 02, 2005 9:36 pm

Ah, but the Finnish person has no excuse of knowing the rules, it is twice as worse not obeying them.
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