"Even if you don't have the qualifications, you have an advantage right away for being a native speaker, over some Finn who has his 3 master's degrees which are meaningless because they were free"
WTF? Finland is ranking very high when it comes to education, be it basic or higher education.
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Are you disputing that free = no value?!?raskarhu wrote:"Even if you don't have the qualifications, you have an advantage right away for being a native speaker, over some Finn who has his 3 master's degrees which are meaningless because they were free"
WTF? Finland is ranking very high when it comes to education, be it basic or higher education.
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I don't doubt there are computer games companies that employ English speaking foreigners with no Finnish at all, but surely you would need to be more qualified than simply being a native English speaker?irishinhelsinki wrote:So look at places such as computer game companies. Expect to only get paid around 2800-3000 per month for this type of job. At least it is more than working in a bar or being a cleaner (which is NOT what the native English people end up as). Most cleaners and bar people I have come across seem to be from places such as Turkey. In the professional office-based jobs, there are loads of Brits and Americans.
Surely for a computer games job you would be expected to have a degree in Computer Science or at least substantial programming or general IT experience?
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Hey, thanks for your feedback! I'm currently in Finland, and I love it 
However, as tizlit said, my chances of finding work seem to be very slim indeed. I looked on the mol(dot)fi site for jobs in cleaning, kitchen assistance etc., but most of them seem to require a certain level of adequacy in Finnish. So far I can only count to 100 and say a couple of phrases, but not nearly enough to carry even a very basic conversation.
irishinhelsinki's post got me a little excited for a moment, but then my usual pessimism/realism quickly kicked in. :p
Oh well, I'll just keep looking... Problem is that my money is running out like crazy. If I told you how much I have left, you would tell me that I might as well start dumpster diving, haha. Relying on my friend (bf, actually) isn't an option. I do *not* want to be a burden in any way. F***...!
Anyway... wish me (and the hundreds of others that I suspect are in similar situations to mine!) luck.
Thanks again for all your feedback

However, as tizlit said, my chances of finding work seem to be very slim indeed. I looked on the mol(dot)fi site for jobs in cleaning, kitchen assistance etc., but most of them seem to require a certain level of adequacy in Finnish. So far I can only count to 100 and say a couple of phrases, but not nearly enough to carry even a very basic conversation.
irishinhelsinki's post got me a little excited for a moment, but then my usual pessimism/realism quickly kicked in. :p
Oh well, I'll just keep looking... Problem is that my money is running out like crazy. If I told you how much I have left, you would tell me that I might as well start dumpster diving, haha. Relying on my friend (bf, actually) isn't an option. I do *not* want to be a burden in any way. F***...!
Anyway... wish me (and the hundreds of others that I suspect are in similar situations to mine!) luck.
Thanks again for all your feedback

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That is because often with menial jobs the foreman speaks only Finnish. The higher your position the more chance your boss/co-workers also speak English.but most of them seem to require a certain level of adequacy in Finnish.
And they are all competing for the same few jobs.(and the hundreds of others that I suspect are in similar situations to mine!)
There is no easy answer or guaranteed solution just keep on trying and make sure you have a plan B (and C and D)
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Yeap... >.< I thought of adding "But wish me more luck than them" but I thought it would be mean.And they are all competing for the same few jobs.

Kiitos, I need to start working on my plans B, C, D and so on. :/