Finns are discriminated in their own country

[Upphew]

Well, it happens in all countries with "social welfare". The poor & feckless manage a better standard of living than working people scratching up a living.

While cases like do indeed exist, they're very few. I'd be very happy if Finland performs some sort of investigation to look into these cases. I'm afraid that the Greens and their likes will label such investigation as racist, which is ridiculous.

True, and I'm afraid that such investigation wouldn't be cost effective. If they got those people to court it would cost even more.
Refining the process to be more tamper proof would be the preferred way in my eyes.

[Beep_Boop]

Did you read the descriptions? "The aim of the project is to encourage Finns with African background to tell about their activities and to get involved in society and culture" - 87000€, *ka-ching*.

I have. While the description might be silly or the purpose vague and unnecessary, and the price tag is high (compared to our salaries), I still think it's very irrational to look at the issue like that. Assuming we're rational and logical people who look at issues objectively because we want what is best for this country, we shouldn't be driven by sensationalized titles, statements, and numbers.

The whole cost of all of those projects is extremely insignificant to deserve any attention. I think that we, as people who actually care, and if we really care, need to focus efforts on actual issues. For example, tax fraud, unemployment, when it comes to EU matters especially by applying laws and changes that are against Finland's interests, etc. etc.

If we keep focusing attention on little issues, who's gonna draw attention to actual issues?

I'm afraid that such investigation wouldn't be cost effective. If they got those people to court it would cost even more

I think an investigation must be carried out first, and then there needs to be an economical feasibility study to decide if the problem is big enough to warrant taking those people to court. If the issue is too little to deserve legal action, then it's probably too little for us to obsess about.

[Bavarian]

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

Sure those are "EU money". But somehow I think there are many sticky fingers between my pocket and when someone is "voimavaraistettu" with that money.

I tend to think of people like this as raking off the vig.

[Beep_Boop]

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

While you're raising a very good point that applies to most financial situations, I think it's quite irrelevant in this case. You're not talking about a billion here and there, we're talking about a fraction of that.

[onkko]

Most of you arent "actual immigrants" so you dont have horde of social workers, lawyers, integration workers and other to take care of you. Finns dont either.
And about legal aspect, its perfectly legal to grant 10 000e for stroller by discretion of social worker, you have just make poem how this is needed for (insert reasons)... And decision is secret so only one or two ever see that decision anyway. In case of actual immigrant goverment pays but munincipality decides.

For example case Lieksa. 3 years decisions on social help (finnish case 1 month max), Rounded weird decisions withouth explanations, Automatic "hobby money" etc... In words of lead of social services "you dont understand that its for actual equality" but ill say government pays so give what possible.