I don't know.

[AnnabelleIeve]

Getting ahead of yourself will only make you ask silly questions and, frankly, be a waste of both your and our time.

Oh come on now, this is almost as fun as that one beacon of intelligence who spent 13 pages bitching and moaning he can't take a dump in a shared toilet in a student dorm and then 2 weeks before his flights got a hissy fit as "nobody told him" you need a student RP...

But quite not at the level of that bloke whose "mom told him" he didn't have to do stuff who was in Eira and then figured out that commuting with train from Hyvinkää wasn't the brightest idea and broke his collarbone bicycling...

Tender nurture is the key, my friend. Who knows, she might come behind your door wanting to treat you a trick

This forum seems quite vivid. Shame I just joined only now!

[AnnabelleIeve]

Now that may seem silly that the presence of reindeer put every university in Finland ahead of all others for me but little things like that really mean something to me.

That would make sense if you wanted to study in Rovaniemi, where reindeer farms are not too far away.

But the only ways of coming close to a reindeer in Helsinki are either in the zoo or by buying reindeer meat...

I know the reindeer are up more north but still

[Pursuivant]

And I'm a bit out of the loop so what is the uh "rotten ditch"?

Its a river - Mätäoja - widening to "Rotten river" - Best angling places on the telephone book map are besides that, "fishless" and "crap pond" unless you go to Lake Bodom like all goth chicks

[AnnabelleIeve]

I've already decided on a selection of Universities, all of which I think are very good institutions.

I'm mainly asking because most English-language degrees are either master's degrees (=you'll need an undergrad degree from somewhere else) or so-so degrees from "universities of applied sciences" (think vocational school slash community college).

I do intend to earn my master's degree at Finnish university. I'd never looked into vocational schools because that's not what I'm looking for. But I could get a bachelor's in Finland if I work on Finnish and pass the language test. It's possible but I don't have a good ear for any languages. So just a master's and maybe further.

[AnnabelleIeve]

And I'm a bit out of the loop so what is the uh "rotten ditch"?

Its a river - Mätäoja - widening to "Rotten river" - Best angling places on the telephone book map are besides that, "fishless" and "crap pond" unless you go to Lake Bodom like all goth chicks

Interesting bit of information.

[Pursuivant]

I don't think it's good for me to try and get a degree when I can only half understand the professors...

You wouldn't get to "understand the professors" - with a foreign education, you'd have to produce an YKI test with at least level 3 to even be allowed to go sit in an entrance exam, for which you'd need to have learned your 1st year text books by heart as well as how to answer the essays... then you'd maybe (whats it 200 apply and 10 taken) be able to be allowed to listen to some old fart gibber...

[Pursuivant]

Interesting bit of information.

Well you should know as Munkkiniemi was named after the monks who had fishing rights in it during the middle ages... well, it was the flow of Vantaa at the time, but the land rose and it silted so it kinda rotted up...

[AnnabelleIeve]

I don't think it's good for me to try and get a degree when I can only half understand the professors...

You wouldn't get to "understand the professors" - with a foreign education, you'd have to produce an YKI test with at least level 3 to even be allowed to go sit in an entrance exam, for which you'd need to have learned your 1st year text books by heart as well as how to answer the essays... then you'd maybe (whats it 200 apply and 10 taken) be able to be allowed to listen to some old fart gibber...

Yeah. I figured.

[AnnabelleIeve]

Interesting bit of information.

Well you should know as Munkkiniemi was named after the monks who had fishing rights in it during the middle ages... well, it was the flow of Vantaa at the time, but the land rose and it silted so it kinda rotted up...

My god. I'm clueless on Finland's geographical history.

[Upphew]

Well you should know as Munkkiniemi was named after the monks who had fishing rights in it during the middle ages... well, it was the flow of Vantaa at the time, but the land rose and it silted so it kinda rotted up...

My god. I'm clueless on Finland's geographical history.

And so are most of the Finns.

[Oombongo]

800,000€ will buy you a nice property in a decent neighborhood (and jealousy from neighbors if they found out that your daddy bought it for you). But, you need a reason to move to Finland as others have already pointed it out. Study or family reasons or j-o-b.

If you like snow etc then Alaska should do, unless you are afraid of Canadians for some unknown reasons

[riku2]

I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. Since prices always go up, never down, I thought it would be nice to survey the costs of basic goods now to anticipate for the future.

If you are considering spending 800,000e on a property then I think there are far more important things to worry about and consider now than the price of milk and potatoes and where to buy them from. Not only the property but things like a car also - should you buy one in advance for example. and which models to avoid since there are no dealers and maintenance is difficult (no point bringing an Aston Martin here).

[Liam1]

Just to defend the OP a little bit.

I spent, what for me, was quite a bit on my house, but I don't think that this disqualifies me from asking where to buy cheap stuff! I also note from the luxury cars outside Lidl, others that have a bit of money don't feel the necessity to waste it needlessly from being ripped off through being sold the exact same product at 30% higher prices. This is more an attitude (in my case, being a bit cheap!)

Though I agree with Riku that IF there is the same budget for eveything, an adverse move in exchange rates can add €100 000 to the cost of an €800 000 house which buys a lot of potatoes! Even that said, when budgeting for moving here I worked out my monthly outgoings independent of the cost of the house (as I would not just borrow more, so the mortgage repayments were a constant).

I can identify with a parent that would say "I'll buy you a nice place to live, but you then manage your own expenses" - it was all the rage in the UK for parents to buy student flats for their loved ones. [In case my offspring read this, note that I said that I can identify not that I would do this!!]

[Adrian42]

Just to defend the OP a little bit.

I spent, what for me, was quite a bit on my house, but I don't think that this disqualifies me from asking where to buy cheap stuff! I also note from the luxury cars outside Lidl, others that have a bit of money don't feel the necessity to waste it needlessly from being ripped off through being sold the exact same product at 30% higher prices. This is more an attitude (in my case, being a bit cheap!)

You don't ask 4 years in advance - the retail market in Finland might even change during the next 4 years (I'm still hoping Aldi will one day come to Finland...).

And I'd understand it if the OP was one of the many poor students from India or Nepal or other Asian countries whose father earns € 250 per month, and for whom the costs associated with studying in Finland are a huge concern.

But when you are lucky to be born to a rich dad such a question is just odd.

I can identify with a parent that would say "I'll buy you a nice place to live, but you then manage your own expenses"

Chances are that the expenses associated with having an own house are higher than the all inclusive costs of renting a HOAS apartment...

[Pursuivant]

If I'd have 800 000 to put in a house, I'd buy a few ghetto highrises and become a slum lord and then rent on that income... and who needs education with that kind of money anyways - you won't need to work for a day in any case, or if you did, I'd learn something I wanted to do, like underwater welding...