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Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:49 pm

I should note that this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject anymore and instead is back and forth rant about money. So you may turn back now.

Strange how people keep visiting this thread when not much is really going on. Ah well. You are welcome to post as much as you like about whatever, but I'm done talking money and stuff. I've found out all I needed to know. If you have any questions for me personally, just private message me. I'll be happy to respond as quickly as I can but since I'm now ashamed to talk about money, please don't ask me about anything that relates to it.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Adrian42 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:29 pm

You want to move to Finland in 4 years, and you are asking this kind of questions?

Seriously?

Have you ever been in Finland before?
Or at least outside of the US?

Finland is a world completely different from the US, and you won't understand many things before you are actually here.

Regarding your question:

Compared to Germany, everything in Finland is very expensive (except for electricity).
But even Walmart gave up it's business in Germany a decade ago after suffering several billions of Euro in losses - with their high prices they were simply not able to compete with cheap retailers like Aldi or Lidl.
Compared to the US the prices in Finland are not that much worse - and changes in the exchange rate between the Dollar and the Euro might be bigger than the difference in the prices.

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:50 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote: Is it better to buy from a sort of "farmer's market" if you want the best price?
So you could afford that? Whos your daddy? Rockefeller?
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:54 pm

Adrian42 wrote:You want to move to Finland in 4 years, and you are asking this kind of questions?

Seriously?

Have you ever been in Finland before?
Or at least outside of the US?

Finland is a world completely different from the US, and you won't understand many things before you are actually here.
I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. Since prices always go up, never down, I thought it would be nice to survey the costs of basic goods now to anticipate for the future. No need to be so harsh about my questions. I'm just very economically concerned about everything.

Planning ahead is important to me. Yet, when I ask a simple question about the market, you interrogate me. I ask for answers, not more questions.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:59 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
AnnabelleIeve wrote: Is it better to buy from a sort of "farmer's market" if you want the best price?
So you could afford that? Whos your daddy? Rockefeller?
Haha. No. I'm very much trying to keep costs down since the cost of the property I want is fairly expensive.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:02 pm

Yet, when I ask a simple question about the market, you interrogate me. I ask for answers, not more questions.
Well, as you do not know these things "everybody else knows", so we need to figure out what level of understanding you have of things beyond Kansas, Dorothy. :wink:
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:10 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
Yet, when I ask a simple question about the market, you interrogate me. I ask for answers, not more questions.
Well, as you do not know these things "everybody else knows", so we need to figure out what level of understanding you have of things beyond Kansas, Dorothy. :wink:

:( I know a lot about Sweden? In general, I know quite a bit about Finland but I don't know much about living in Finland.
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Post by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:22 pm

Not *that* much different - and a whole lot... Dunno, would USA and Canada be the "same" or "different"? With Sweden you have same size country (distances) but a whole lot less population, similar legislation (from the same root anyways) social democracy, taxation, lutherans... in Sweden you talk and talk and talk and drink coffee, Finns drink coffee in silence and then do... in Sweden you have consensus and are all liberal and make sure nobodys feelings get hurt... in Finland you force a consensus, have a grudge, have a conservative streak, and if somebody complains their feelings get hurt someone goes and insults them a couple times properly and an extra on top just to make sure the complaint was valid... I mean small and insignificant things sometimes, depends all where you at really. :wink:
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Adrian42 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:38 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote:Planning ahead is important to me. Yet, when I ask a simple question about the market, you interrogate me. I ask for answers, not more questions.
University admission and how to obtain a Finnish Residence Permit would be valid questions for you.

Students manage to live from pretty few money in Finland when they have to.

You are considering to spend a few million Euros to get a house built that fits exactly your wishes in one of the best neighbourhoods of Helsinki, and you are worried about prices in grocery stores?

Are you even interested in the price for the typical low-income student food (rice or noodles with ketchup), or in the price for Champagne and Caviar?

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Pursuivant » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:49 pm

Adrian42 wrote: (rice or noodles with ketchup)
As if you would have party food every week!
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by jahasjahas » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:59 pm

You said you're moving here in 4 years and asked whether it would be weird for a 20-year-old to go trick and treating on Easter. Does that mean that right now you're 16?

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:12 pm

jahasjahas wrote:You said you're moving here in 4 years and asked whether it would be weird for a 20-year-old to go trick and treating on Easter. Does that mean that right now you're 16?
18. I used 20-year old because I didn't want to do the math and really it was just an estimate. Like I said, it might be 2, 3, OR 4 years.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:24 pm

Adrian42 wrote:
AnnabelleIeve wrote:Planning ahead is important to me. Yet, when I ask a simple question about the market, you interrogate me. I ask for answers, not more questions.
University admission and how to obtain a Finnish Residence Permit would be valid questions for you.

Students manage to live from pretty few money in Finland when they have to.

You are considering to spend a few million Euros to get a house built that fits exactly your wishes in one of the best neighbourhoods of Helsinki, and you are worried about prices in grocery stores?

Are you even interested in the price for the typical low-income student food (rice or noodles with ketchup), or in the price for Champagne and Caviar?

Well I should note that I'm trying to spend as little on property altogether. I just want to live in my own private home because I intend for the home to also act as a second home. Really I want a tiny home, 1-2 bed and 1 bath (which is why I was considering buying land since I'm sure the homes in Munkkiniemi are bigger than that.). And I guess it does seem really early to ask about these little things, but I like to hear other people's shopping habits.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:35 pm

Adrian42 wrote:
Are you even interested in the price for the typical low-income student food (rice or noodles with ketchup), or in the price for Champagne and Caviar?
Well I'm not fond of champagne and caviar but maybe white wine and the general price of fresh fruits? My tastes in food are not so expensive. :wink:

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Adrian42 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:40 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote:I just want to live in my own private home because I intend for the home to also act as a second home after my studies. Really I want a tiny home, 1-2 bed and 1 bath (which is why I was considering buying land since I'm sure the homes in Munkkiniemi are bigger than that.).
The amount you intend to spend on your "second home" equals roughly what an average Finn earns in his lifetime.

It is so absurd when a spoiled rich kid like you asks about prices in grocery stores.


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