Unbelievable Pizza

[Rob A.]

Well...just to get the thread back on topic I thought this might help.... One of my childhood favourites... Try to ignore Jerry Lewis's contribution if you can...

[mCowboy]

Exactly - labor cost is the TOTAL of the whole pile - NOT the 'extras' -- ! Read your own definitions.

Can you read? I said LABOR COSTS TO AN EMPLOYER = labor costs + additional costs incurring to an employer.

And - interesting - you throw out a 'for example' and put RIDICULOUS numbers and think people are supposed to give them credibility - just 'randomly' 22% Italy, 50% Finland - great 'logic'

It was an example like I said many times...

The real figure of Italy's total labor costs to an employer is 66% of Finland's. So there is a big difference.
http://www.ek.fi/tupo/kv_vertailut/kuva ... makust.pdf

You did the same thing throwing out numbers a la George W. (guess that's where the 'mCowboy' comes from ) like Italian salaries are half Finnish - shown to be pure cow manure!

I never talked about Italian salaries being half of Finnish, get your facts and quotes straight.

I used examples like 1500 for Italy and 2200 for Finland. The real figures are that the average salary in Italy is about 60% of Finnish salary. So in my example I was actually overestimating the Italian number.

http://www.ek.fi/tupo/kv_vertailut/kuvat/kuva6_iso.gif

If you are looking for a definition for 'troll'

One contributing zero input - zero credibility - and just superficial opinions - content contribution: nada!

Guess who's the troll?

You are... bashing everything American and Finnish in this forum, with your pretentious culinary opions which are not worth crap as we established here before many times.

Anyone remember this:

I guess janiheisk (aka jounip and alexiskivi, concluded from the topics he's interested in and his writing style) will soon disappear from this forum like before, and return after a while with a new nick...?

I guess we can add rxonbladhom as one of the aliases on the list... as it disappears and resurfaces under a new nick

[mCowboy]

Re: Unbelievable Pizza
quantify this Italian 5 Euro pizza with the fact that the average salary in Italy is roughly half that of Finland. I was just saying - 5 Euros in a white tablecloth restaurant. But as long as you bring it up - I find it amazing how a good portion of the populace of ...

by mCowboy
on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:31 pm

Forum: Culture & Cuisine
Topic: Unbelievable Pizza
Replies: 79
Views: 954

If there is to be a forum with any sense - participantas must at least recall what they them selves have written - Cowboy says Italiam salaries half - and later says he didn't say that - another incarnation of George W?

Dude, you must be dreaming... on this thread there's no posts by me on that time....

There's posts by you however, back to back... first 3.30pm second 3.34pm... and no other posts in between...

Second of all, since you are incapable of using the basic functions of this bulletin board.... first you quoted someone else and then claim that it was me who quoted... I think you need to go back to 3rd grade reading class....

and usually costing about 5 Euros even in a white tablecloth restaurant

Sorry to pick you up on this point janiheisk, but perhaps you could also quantify this Italian 5 Euro pizza with the fact that the average salary in Italy is roughly half that of Finland.

learn to f**kin' read, write and quote properly...

What the hell are you talking about? I keep referring to new stuff becaese we havent come close to describing a comfortable culinary environment in Finland

Plesae tell what you have 'estabished' -- ?? It would be more than intersting. I have now been intimatedly connected with the Finnish culinary scene for 40 years - there are som interesting developments, inded - but the general sitution is not terribly good - we should all be thankful for the 'free enterprisers' in the Hämemtie area - but there is much to be dome.

The least helpful are those that go 'GA GA' about some K-Maret puttimg spme super-crap sugar-loaded US processed food on the shelf!

I never claimed I have established anything. If your Finnish culinary experience is whinging about Finnish food for 40 years... that's just being a snobbish prat..

Just because someone likes sugar-loaded US processed crap, doesn't make it any less worthy than your moans about what is "Al Dente" and claiming to be right about everything and no one in Finland knows anything about it except you.. every thread you post in turns into that soon after you join... and 99% of the time by you.

You have a serious attitude problem, and a quoting problem, and looks to me that reading isn't one of your fortes, not to mention spelling...

[Karhunkoski]

We have bozos telling Italian salaries are HALF Finland without bothering to do a BIT of research etc.

You appear both erratic and confused. I made the above statement, not Cowboy. Please check who exactly you are quoting...you bozo

On the same subject, please also try to quote other adjectives that may have been used in someone's remark, notably the word "roughly". I normally subscribe to good and solid research before making a point, however in this case the main point could easily be made without this, the point being, "I think you are very wrong to compare prices of everyday things between Italy and Finland.", incomes are vastly different (you could even look at Italian taxes), and this is reflected in the prices of everyday goods. You may as well complain about how cheap you can buy an apartment in Moldova, where the salary difference is even more pronounced.

In closing, and for the benefit of newcomers to this forum, I should point out that our friend here has been banned from this forum under at least four different aliases. Yes that's right, not just a single ban for some off-the-cuff drunken remark late on a saturay night, but four separate bans. I guess that says it all.

[enk]

Lessee:

janiheis
janiheisk
ronbladholm
rxonbladholm
alexiskivi

what else?

-enk

[sammy]

what else?

Hmmm... I think I'll have the pizza "Cinque Pseudonimi"... with extra garlic please

Oh, and a frosty pint of red wine to go with that...

[mCowboy]

In closing, and for the benefit of newcomers to this forum, I should point out that our friend here has been banned from this forum under at least four different aliases. Yes that's right, not just a single ban for some off-the-cuff drunken remark late on a saturay night, but four separate bans. I guess that says it all.

[mCowboy]

It says NOTHING.

One gets banned from this forum for just disagreeing with some particular Smores-loving clique that always wants to be right - even if they are wrong (Italian salaries are half Finnish, etc.)

Karhukoski is not American, so I doubt if he likes S'mores, and he was the one making a guesstimate about the salaries. You're assuming way too much and that makes an ASS of U, but not ME in this case...

If you wouldn't go on a rant every time someone talks about food, we could have decent conversations here, instead, you seem to think you're the self-appointed culinary guru here, who knows everything about food and in the process moan about food in Finland and throw in some anti-American comments... that doesn't make good conversation, especially since it's you think/want to be right at all times.

[sammy]

So how about Tampere... where to go for a pizza?

I've been to Pizzeria Napoli, only once or twice though; that place was okay (personally I tend to steer clear of pineapple etc, and yep you guessed it, they seem to have mustamakkara pizza - btw I quite like that stuff but on a pizza?!?) - any other recommendations for Tampere?

[sammy]

We have bozos telling Italian salaries are HALF Finland without bothering to do a BIT of research etc.

So we should be pedantic, exact and scholarly in every single post, huh? Roight! *rubs his hands*

Chicago Deep Dish was started at UNO in 1943! Napolitan pizza was eaten 500 years before that!

That's not possible, since tomatos were only introduced to Europe in the first half of the 16th century... 1519 at the earliest... see also http://www.lifeinitaly.com/food/pizza-history.asp "Even though tomatoes reached Italy by the 1530's it was widely thought that they were poisonous and were grown only for decoration. However the innovative (and probably starving) peasants of Naples started using the supposedly deadly fruit in many of their foods, including their early pizzas."

1943 - 500 years = 1443. That would be about one hundred years before 1530's wouldn't it... So there was approximately a 20% error in your post re. the number of years Italians have been able to prepare pizzas with tomato in them.

A thoroughly unnecessary & cheesy post, perhaps, but this is a pizza thread after all... and psst, not to be taken too seriously

[mCowboy]

Sammy,

now you're just taking the pizz...

[sammy]

Yes, my head is full of pizz... and "sitä saa, mitä tilaa" (joskus jopa pizzeriassa)

But seriously, since my gibberish post seems to have chucked my earlier one into oblivion (ie the previous page), I'd like to take this opportunity to ask again about pizza house recommendations in Tampere.

[Freddyb]

Nerone in Punavuori serve some of the best pizza in Helsinki. Decent crust. Decent toppings. Not greasy and very tasty. And consistent with quality. Its well worth a visit or for take away IMO.

http://www.ravintolanerone.com/en/index.html

http://www.ravintolanerone.com/en/howtoreachus.html

I agree with Neil %100 on this,

I once lived around the corner from Nerone and ate there often....

[Kai]

Nerone in Punavuori serve some of the best pizza in Helsinki. Decent crust. Decent toppings. Not greasy and very tasty. And consistent with quality. Its well worth a visit or for take away IMO.

http://www.ravintolanerone.com/en/index.html

http://www.ravintolanerone.com/en/howtoreachus.html

I agree with Neil %100 on this,

I once lived around the corner from Nerone and ate there often....

That link made me hungry will put it on my to do list, next time i visit the wrong side of the wolf fence

[Hank W.]

Darn, now you made me go to my local And then I just made flan...