Applying for Citizenship 2024

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_User123_
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by _User123_ » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:03 pm

BomjaraSedoi wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:56 pm
_User123_ wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:19 pm
std123 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:52 pm

Yes, but no matter how you contact Migri, the reply is always the same: we can't do anything except wait. This is what I’ve understood after contacting Migri multiple times. Sad..But..True!
Got diary number in February 2022. Started processing in the end of June and I'm still waiting. I recently had a call and surprisingly customer service person gave more insights. I was told that they are waiting information from another authority. Unfortunately, they didn't have any time estimation. They also didn't share from which authority. Before you ask, I don't have any crime, fine etc.

One side of me is leaning on just wait and even forget about that I applied for citizenship and the other side is more about contacting lawyer. Indeed, seeing many people having citizenship in shorter time is alarming. I wish that they had more transparency. Honestly speaking, even the idea of contacting lawyer makes me feel sad. I have never imagined myself having a need of a lawyer for my rights in this country.
Did you asked for some supplement request ?
I have asked previously, and the answer was "we will let you know if any supplement is needed"



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TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:07 pm

_User123_ wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:19 pm
std123 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:52 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:19 pm


I applied in Oct 2022. I’m concern why some applicants in ’22 waiting for more than two years? This is so alarming
Yes, but no matter how you contact Migri, the reply is always the same: we can't do anything except wait. This is what I’ve understood after contacting Migri multiple times. Sad..But..True!
Got diary number in February 2022. Started processing in the end of June and I'm still waiting. I recently had a call and surprisingly customer service person gave more insights. I was told that they are waiting information from another authority. Unfortunately, they didn't have any time estimation. They also didn't share from which authority. Before you ask, I don't have any crime, fine etc.

One side of me is leaning on just wait and even forget about that I applied for citizenship and the other side is more about contacting lawyer. Indeed, seeing many people having citizenship in shorter time is alarming. I wish that they had more transparency. Honestly speaking, even the idea of contacting lawyer makes me feel sad. I have never imagined myself having a need of a lawyer for my rights in this country.
What was original estimate for your application? Like in 2022 and in 2023 (in this year was it 23 months or 30)?

betelgeuse
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by betelgeuse » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:24 pm

_User123_ wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:19 pm
std123 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:52 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:19 pm
I applied in Oct 2022. I’m concern why some applicants in ’22 waiting for more than two years? This is so alarming
Yes, but no matter how you contact Migri, the reply is always the same: we can't do anything except wait. This is what I’ve understood after contacting Migri multiple times. Sad..But..True!
Got diary number in February 2022. Started processing in the end of June and I'm still waiting. I recently had a call and surprisingly customer service person gave more insights. I was told that they are waiting information from another authority. Unfortunately, they didn't have any time estimation. They also didn't share from which authority. Before you ask, I don't have any crime, fine etc.

One side of me is leaning on just wait and even forget about that I applied for citizenship and the other side is more about contacting lawyer. Indeed, seeing many people having citizenship in shorter time is alarming. I wish that they had more transparency. Honestly speaking, even the idea of contacting lawyer makes me feel sad. I have never imagined myself having a need of a lawyer for my rights in this country.
Instead of hiring a lawyer, the Parliamentary Ombudsman can look into your matter for free.

https://www.oikeusasiamies.fi/en/compla ... -ombudsman

burcu1
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by burcu1 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:27 pm

curiousan wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:11 am
burcu1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:07 pm
No_doo wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:49 pm


Thank you. Yes, the maximum time keeps going up since I applied, it was 14 months back then.
I dunno why they placed it in the longest queue. And the funny thing that I got my permanent residence permit in 1 day. So I went for the verification at Migri, then the following day they granted it. So it is very random.

Best of luck for you too
What's your diary number or just first two numbers? I am asking because I have similar background like you and trying to figure out if I am in the same queue
Jumping in the middle of conversation. My diary number starts with 17xxx. I see here many with the decision with diary number 16xxx . Of course i did got it late Dec 2023, So still have time for both shorter and longer queue to get processed for the application at this time. But how do i know which is the longer queue and which is the shorter queue based on diary number beginning ?
I think you can't know type of your queue based on diary number. Diary number is amount of people applied for citizenship in a year. My estimation was 16000-18000 applicants in 2023 (based on migri statistics). When we start to see that diary numbers 1000-2000 have started to process, that means migri is on January 2024 applications.

About queue type, there was a graph at the beginning of this thread. 1st queue is 0-2000 (no one really knows what is it for), 2nd queue starts from 6000-6300 (I believe this is the slow queue as it moves slowly according to people in this thread) and 3rd queue starts ~8500-10000 which is normal or faster.

What was your initial queue number?

Oussbe7
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Oussbe7 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:07 pm

Hello I have questions if someone has similar experience, I have called the Finnish immigration and asked about my citizenship application that I have submitted one year ago because I couldn’t log in for enter Finland for something technical problem , they have told me that they opened my application but did not have a decision yet , the next day when I have logged in to the enterfinland website I found that my application is still on stage one is that normal ??

curiousan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by curiousan » Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:37 pm

burcu1 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:27 pm
curiousan wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:11 am
burcu1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:07 pm


What's your diary number or just first two numbers? I am asking because I have similar background like you and trying to figure out if I am in the same queue
Jumping in the middle of conversation. My diary number starts with 17xxx. I see here many with the decision with diary number 16xxx . Of course i did got it late Dec 2023, So still have time for both shorter and longer queue to get processed for the application at this time. But how do i know which is the longer queue and which is the shorter queue based on diary number beginning ?
I think you can't know type of your queue based on diary number. Diary number is amount of people applied for citizenship in a year. My estimation was 16000-18000 applicants in 2023 (based on migri statistics). When we start to see that diary numbers 1000-2000 have started to process, that means migri is on January 2024 applications.

About queue type, there was a graph at the beginning of this thread. 1st queue is 0-2000 (no one really knows what is it for), 2nd queue starts from 6000-6300 (I believe this is the slow queue as it moves slowly according to people in this thread) and 3rd queue starts ~8500-10000 which is normal or faster.

What was your initial queue number?
It was around 8700 if I recall it correctly

digitalknight
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by digitalknight » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:19 pm

I've applied for citizenship in March 2023. I am still at the first "Waiting for processing" stage. After around a year waiting I started to suspect that maybe my application went to the queue for "people who arrived to Finland without obtaining a residence permit in advance". You can see estimate on the Migri page for that queue to be 30 months, estimate for "people who arrived with a residence permit obtained in advance" is 7-23 month(s) currently. I wrote an email to Migri and they replied that the estimated waiting time for my application is 21 months (so I can assume that my application is in the correct queue). Then in couple months I wrote to them again and this time they replied that the estimated waiting time for my application is 30 months. I told them that they said that it is 21 months previously to which they replied that it is 23 months. I called them recently and they said that it is 30 months again. I don't understand why they keep telling me different information. What could that possibly mean?

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by atlast » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm

Sergo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:57 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:01 am
Hello, Any updates from 2022 applicants?
I applied in August 2022 and am still waiting.
My application is in progress since a week ago
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atlast
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by atlast » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:38 pm

atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm
Sergo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:57 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:01 am
Hello, Any updates from 2022 applicants?
I applied in August 2022 and am still waiting.
My application is in progress since a week ago

BomjaraSedoi
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by BomjaraSedoi » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:41 pm

atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm
Sergo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:57 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:01 am
Hello, Any updates from 2022 applicants?
I applied in August 2022 and am still waiting.
My application is in progress since a week ago

Did they asked supplement requests?

atlast
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by atlast » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:42 pm

BomjaraSedoi wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:41 pm
atlast wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm
Sergo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:57 pm


I applied in August 2022 and am still waiting.
My application is in progress since a week ago

Did they asked supplement requests?
No

Mkh
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Mkh » Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:05 pm

Is there any time estimation for 1st queue?
I applied in January 2023, and still waiting and my diary number is in 1st queue :(
I came as master student ( not a refugee), have full time job and already had permanent resident permit when applied for citizenship.

burcu1 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:27 pm
curiousan wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:11 am
burcu1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:07 pm


What's your diary number or just first two numbers? I am asking because I have similar background like you and trying to figure out if I am in the same queue
Jumping in the middle of conversation. My diary number starts with 17xxx. I see here many with the decision with diary number 16xxx . Of course i did got it late Dec 2023, So still have time for both shorter and longer queue to get processed for the application at this time. But how do i know which is the longer queue and which is the shorter queue based on diary number beginning ?
I think you can't know type of your queue based on diary number. Diary number is amount of people applied for citizenship in a year. My estimation was 16000-18000 applicants in 2023 (based on migri statistics). When we start to see that diary numbers 1000-2000 have started to process, that means migri is on January 2024 applications.

About queue type, there was a graph at the beginning of this thread. 1st queue is 0-2000 (no one really knows what is it for), 2nd queue starts from 6000-6300 (I believe this is the slow queue as it moves slowly according to people in this thread) and 3rd queue starts ~8500-10000 which is normal or faster.

What was your initial queue number?

sininen1508
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by sininen1508 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:23 pm

Hello everyone, Finally I got a positive decision today after over 9 months.
I came here as a student in the end of 2018.
01/2020 I changed to working visa.
13/12/2023 I got queue number
6/9/2024 moved to step 2
I was worried about my application since it moved to step 2 over 2 weeks but it was worth waiting. Today I got the decision at 16:00.
This Finland Forum has helped me a lot to track my application and estimate when it went to process and it was all true information. Again, thank you for everyone here and I wish you all get your decision soon.

phungxuanton
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by phungxuanton » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:57 pm

sininen1508 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:23 pm
Hello everyone, Finally I got a positive decision today after over 9 months.
I came here as a student in the end of 2018.
01/2020 I changed to working visa.
13/12/2023 I got queue number
6/9/2024 moved to step 2
I was worried about my application since it moved to step 2 over 2 weeks but it was worth waiting. Today I got the decision at 16:00.
This Finland Forum has helped me a lot to track my application and estimate when it went to process and it was all true information. Again, thank you for everyone here and I wish you all get your decision soon.
congrats to you finally!

_User123_
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by _User123_ » Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:35 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:07 pm
_User123_ wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:19 pm
std123 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:52 pm

Yes, but no matter how you contact Migri, the reply is always the same: we can't do anything except wait. This is what I’ve understood after contacting Migri multiple times. Sad..But..True!
Got diary number in February 2022. Started processing in the end of June and I'm still waiting. I recently had a call and surprisingly customer service person gave more insights. I was told that they are waiting information from another authority. Unfortunately, they didn't have any time estimation. They also didn't share from which authority. Before you ask, I don't have any crime, fine etc.

One side of me is leaning on just wait and even forget about that I applied for citizenship and the other side is more about contacting lawyer. Indeed, seeing many people having citizenship in shorter time is alarming. I wish that they had more transparency. Honestly speaking, even the idea of contacting lawyer makes me feel sad. I have never imagined myself having a need of a lawyer for my rights in this country.
What was original estimate for your application? Like in 2022 and in 2023 (in this year was it 23 months or 30)?
Estimation at the service point was one year. I haven't checked the estimation in 2022 and early 2023 but it was 23 months at some point in 2023.


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