Moving to Finland...

Myuu · Post by **Myuu** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:12 pm

Hey, I just came on here to ask a question... I've been thinking of moving to Finland, and I've got a general idea how to, but I was wondering about citizenship. My mother (dead ;P) was Finnish, but is there some way I have to prove this? I mean how is it exactly they find out?

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Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:25 pm

Well, they will know...

baris · Post by **baris** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:15 pm

Myuu wrote: but I was wondering about citizenship.

Please notice that there are two ways to acquire Finnish citizenship, by declaration and by application. If you meet the requirements of the declaration and declare that you have the requirements, authorities have to give you the citizenship. You can see the details in the following link: http://www.uvi.fi/netcomm/content.asp?p ... anguage=EN but I guess that you don't meet the requirements. If your father was Finnish, you could meet the following requirement:

"a child born outside Finland whose mother is a foreigner and whose father was a Finnish citizen at the time of the child's birth, and whose paternity has been established"

If you can't get the citizenship by declaration, there is also application option but then there are requirements such as, you have to know Finnish and you should live in Finland for quite a long time (around 6 years with a decent residence permit [namely type A], longer if you are issued other residence permit types).

You can find all of the requirements for that in the following link:
http://www.uvi.fi/netcomm/content.asp?p ... anguage=EN

Myuu · Post by **Myuu** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:27 am

So basically it's pretty much impossible for me to get citizenship without living there for 6 years? (My father isn't Finnish). If I do move there it'll be soon, and I'm pretty young right now (17)... the reason I'm going to be moving is to live with some Finnish friends who I've known online for years and met in person a few times, so waiting til' I'm like 30 is pretty much out of the question... >_>;

I'm in the EU, if that helps at all? (Sorry, I have no clue about this stuff. Excuse my utter stupidity =x)

Thanks for the help ^_^

edit; I dunno if this can make it easier for me to move, but I'm willing to learn Finnish. And also... the friends I mentioned are all guys, so I won't be moving in with a girlfriend or anything, which I've seen people mention can entitle you to move into Finland somehow (I'm probably wrong though o.o)

agn71 · Post by **agn71** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:41 am

You might get citizenship:

Persons with a Finnish citizen or a former Finnish citizen as a parent
You have the right to acquire Finnish citizenship by
declaration if:
• your identity has been established,
• your father or your mother is or was a Finnish citizen,
and
• he/she did not have to acquire Finnish citizenship by
application.

In addition, it is required that he/she:
• was a Finnish citizen on June 1, 2003, when the new
Nationality Act came into effect, or
• is a former Finnish citizen who is entitled to regain

Finnish citizenship (see ‘Former Finnish citizens’ above).
These requirements also apply to a parent who has
deceased before June 1, 2003.

Finnish citizenship may also be granted to your child
under 18 if your father or mother is or was a Finnish
citizen. The child may acquire Finnish citizenship
provided that he/she is in your custody and included in
the declaration as co-applicant

The declaration must be submitted on May 31, 2008 at
the latest.

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baris · Post by **baris** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:24 pm

Good point agn71, I missed that part. Myuu if you meet the requirements agn71 listed, authorities have to give you the citizenship but don't forget that you have to apply before 31.5.2008. Well, you have quite much time

.

About the other option, don't forget that even if you stay for 6 years, authorities might not give you the citizenship by application. So you should definitely get the citizenship by declaration if you can.

Myuu · Post by **Myuu** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:26 pm

Ah... damn. ><; It's gonna be after 2008 if I go... I mean it'll be soon, but not that soon >_>;. This is a lot more complicated than I expected, I thought I could just like... move there, without having do pass any requirements or anything

. You know, the only reason I'm going to live with these guys is because they want me to be in their band... is that a stupid reason? :S I think I'm going to have to think this over again.. ><

Thanks loads for all the help though, you won't believe how much you've helped me already.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:42 pm

You can't have the cake and be eating it too... Its very seldom you can just "appear" into a country like that. You can enter on a work permit - if the band is a legit business that can make a contract with you. But then the declaration process is a bit less complicated (but it takes some time). You just need to have the right paperwork in the right order. Call the embassy and ask for the forms to fill out.

mrshourula · Post by **mrshourula** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:29 am

You don't have to be living in Finland to file a declaration for citizenship. If you meet the requirements for claiming citizenship by declaration then you can file the proper form (plus supporting documentation and fee) at any Finnish Embassy or Consulate.

soda · Post by **soda** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:59 am

Has everyone missed the point here, or what?

If the guy is from the EU - none of this matters.

I've lived here for nearly 5 years as an EU citizen, and am not a Finnish citizen. Just show up and wave the passport.

soda · Post by **soda** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:00 am

Has everyone missed the point here, or what?

If the guy is from the EU - none of this matters.

I've lived here for nearly 5 years as an EU citizen, and am not a Finnish citizen. Just show up and wave the passport.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:04 am

Said "in the Eu" not "of the EU". Of course, being "of the EU" as in a citizen of an (old) EU country there would be no problem, but if the person has a residence permit in one EU country while they have a citizenship of a non-EU country that doesn't help then at all.

So, Muyy - what are you? The crystal orb is foggy...

Myuu · Post by **Myuu** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:45 pm

Hank W. wrote:Said "in the Eu" not "of the EU". Of course, being "of the EU" as in a citizen of an (old) EU country there would be no problem, but if the person has a residence permit in one EU country while they have a citizenship of a non-EU country that doesn't help then at all.

So, Muyy - what are you? The crystal orb is foggy...

Oh man *slaps head* I'm such an idiot, haha, I didn't even think of that. I'm "of the EU", yeah, lived here allll my life... so I've just wasted everyone's time huh?

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