A little translation

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:55 am

Can you help me with this?
What's mäkäräinen and paarma in English?

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kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:39 pm

Susan

"paarma" is here :
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... ish/paarma

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:46 pm

Thanks Kalmisto! =)

is mäkäräinen a small fly then?

kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:59 pm

Susan wrote:Thanks Kalmisto! =)

is mäkäräinen a small fly then?

See this ! : http://www.answers.com/topic/gnat

"In England mosquitoes are called gnats; in the United States it is chiefly the smaller forms of Diptera, especially irritating because of their great numbers and their vicious biting habits, that are referred to as gnats."

The gnats in Finland probably belong to the family "Simuliidae" (black flies).

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:23 pm

If a understand well a paarma is a gadfly, the big and annoying ones.

Is this a paarma?
http://www.kolumbus.fi/matlai/luonto99/ ... v10r02.htm

Is this a mäkäräinen?
http://www.cartinafinland.fi/kuvapankki ... _thumb.jpg

Irbe · Post by **Irbe** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:03 pm

Susan wrote:Is this a paarma?
http://www.kolumbus.fi/matlai/luonto99/ ... v10r02.htm

One kind of, yes. The nastier ones are dark grey/braun, even over 2 cm long, big biters.

Is this a mäkäräinen?
http://www.cartinafinland.fi/kuvapankki ... _thumb.jpg

Probably.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:19 pm

Thanks a lot guys.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:48 pm

Why do you southern girl wave your hands, why don't you use OFF?

kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:35 pm

Susan

mäkäräinen = mäkärä = "buffalo gnat" or "black fly" ( also "blackfly" )

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... %25C3%25A4

And what is a "buffalo gnat" ? :

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... +gnat.html

enk · Post by **enk** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:12 am

Päivän trivia: Mäkäräinen is, by the way, a dialectal word. The proper
word is mäkärä and the word mäkärä is not likely to p*ss of anyone with
the last name of Mäkäräinen, of which there are quite a few in the north
(both mäkärä and Mäkäräinen

).

-enk

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:29 pm

Hank W. wrote:Why do you southern girl wave your hands, why don't you use OFF?

Believe it or not Hank, using OFF doesn't help you when you want to learn the names of the insects in Finnish. Did it help YOU?

-Mikä tämä on?
-Se on paaiva. =)

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:41 pm

kalmisto wrote:Susan

mäkäräinen = mäkärä = "buffalo gnat" or "black fly" ( also "blackfly" )

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... %25C3%25A4

And what is a "buffalo gnat" ? :

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.o ... +gnat.html

Thanks. It's clear now. That was a good question...asking what a buffalo gnat is, I had no idea about that. Funny name the small thing has.
Thanks for the links. =)

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:48 pm

enk wrote:Päivän trivia: Mäkäräinen is, by the way, a dialectal word. The proper
word is mäkärä and the word mäkärä is not likely to p*ss of anyone with
the last name of Mäkäräinen, of which there are quite a few in the north
(both mäkärä and Mäkäräinen ).

-enk

This was very useful. Yes, "mäkärainen" sounded like a name. . . now, is it a mistake to call the fly a "mäkäräinen"?

sammy · Post by **sammy** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:56 pm

Susan wrote:This was very useful. Yes, "mäkärainen" sounded like a name. . . now, is it a mistake to call the fly a "mäkäräinen"?

I don't think so... unless the wrestler next to you at the bus stop happens to be called Mäkäräinen

I've heard (and used) both forms myself, but then again I'm not from Lapland so pelt me with reindeer droppings if I'm wrong!

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:15 pm

sammy wrote:
Susan wrote:This was very useful. Yes, "mäkärainen" sounded like a name. . . now, is it a mistake to call the fly a "mäkäräinen"?
I don't think so... unless the wrestler next to you at the bus stop happens to be called Mäkäräinen

I've heard (and used) both forms myself, but then again I'm not from Lapland so pelt me with reindeer droppings if I'm wrong!

That would be quite unfortunate.

A Finnish girl told me about the paaivas and mäkäläinen (no idea how to make the plural of that and mäkäläinens doesn't sound right but maybe it is after all), she's from Palonurmi or Jyväskylä. I think that's north, isn't it?

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