Can anyone recommend a soy formula available in Finland? And can you get it without a doctor's prescription.
We suspect our 1-year-old daughter might be sensitive/allergic to milk so soy formula would be a fairly nutritious alternative, as she's also in need of extra calories.
Thanks!
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You should not switch to soy formula without getting a medical opinion. If your daughter has lactose intolerance or milk protein allergy she should be seen by a doctor. The two things (lactose intolerance and milk protein allergy) are quite different. It is not sufficient to simply change formula. She needs to have a proper diagnosis.
What makes you think your daughter needs more calories? If she has a balanced diet (of which milk is now only a small part) then she should not need extra calories. Some kids are naturally skinny (I was).
If your daughter has a true milk allergy and you switch to soja then it is quite likely she will become allergic to soja milk too. Also, some research has suggested that giving soja milk to girl babies under one year old can cause sterility later on (maybe you can find that on google).
I think you can only buy soja formula in a pharmacy and I would be surprised if they give it to you over the counter.
BTW, my 13 yr old boy has NEVER drunk cows milk or soja milk in his life. He is one of the tallest kids in his class and is very healthy and active.
What makes you think your daughter needs more calories? If she has a balanced diet (of which milk is now only a small part) then she should not need extra calories. Some kids are naturally skinny (I was).
If your daughter has a true milk allergy and you switch to soja then it is quite likely she will become allergic to soja milk too. Also, some research has suggested that giving soja milk to girl babies under one year old can cause sterility later on (maybe you can find that on google).
I think you can only buy soja formula in a pharmacy and I would be surprised if they give it to you over the counter.
BTW, my 13 yr old boy has NEVER drunk cows milk or soja milk in his life. He is one of the tallest kids in his class and is very healthy and active.
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A Doctors consulting room is the place to seek advice on you childs health and treatment..Not an internet message board.micky wrote:
We suspect our 1-year-old daughter might be sensitive/allergic to milk so soy formula would be a fairly nutritious alternative, as she's also in need of extra calories.
Thanks!
Who diagnosed your child as "needing calories"?
Let me guess..Was it Grand Ma?
People do not become more irritable as they grow old - they simply stop making the effort to avoid annoying others.
sinikettu, interesting assumptions.
It would be more polite to at least consider that possibility that we have indeed seeked medical advice and know what we are talking about. I find that this forum is not the place to provide a list of our specialists' consultations, or results of our trials. I'm afraid you'll just have to trust that we know what we are talking about.
NOTE: perhaps my post was not clear enough. Sorry if it sounds rude, but we were not seeking for ADVICE but just wanted to know BRANDS of soy-based formulas.
By the way Grandfather is a doctor.
It would be more polite to at least consider that possibility that we have indeed seeked medical advice and know what we are talking about. I find that this forum is not the place to provide a list of our specialists' consultations, or results of our trials. I'm afraid you'll just have to trust that we know what we are talking about.
NOTE: perhaps my post was not clear enough. Sorry if it sounds rude, but we were not seeking for ADVICE but just wanted to know BRANDS of soy-based formulas.
By the way Grandfather is a doctor.
micky
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Was having a look on the Nan website and found this...
http://www.nestle.co.uk/Nutrition/Infan ... ptions.htm
Quite interesting about soya milk.
At one year they can make the swtich from formula/breast milk to cows milk or another alternative, if you cant find the formula you need you could seek an alternative in rice milk, oat milk etc. All in CM and Prisma.
HTH
Hannah
http://www.nestle.co.uk/Nutrition/Infan ... ptions.htm
Quite interesting about soya milk.
At one year they can make the swtich from formula/breast milk to cows milk or another alternative, if you cant find the formula you need you could seek an alternative in rice milk, oat milk etc. All in CM and Prisma.
HTH
Hannah
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Personally, (and I stress personally) I would steer clear of both cow milk and soya milk for your child. I drink neither, and I really try to avoid dairy products, although that is quite difficult here in Finland.
Soy has been linked to thyroid problems, etc (I'm sure you can trawl google) and well, cow's milk is designed for baby cows, not baby humans (or adult humans either).
Like penelope suggests, height is based on genes not what you eat, assuming you are getting enough calories and nutrients. You don't need cows milk to grow tall. We are brainwashed here in Western countries that cows milk is somehow good for us. Its not particulary. Its filled with growth hormones for a start. And have you ever seen a dairy cow? Oh I'm rambling on.
And this is completely off topic as you're asking about soy products for babies in Finland. Sorry. I just feel passionately about this!
M-T
Soy has been linked to thyroid problems, etc (I'm sure you can trawl google) and well, cow's milk is designed for baby cows, not baby humans (or adult humans either).
Like penelope suggests, height is based on genes not what you eat, assuming you are getting enough calories and nutrients. You don't need cows milk to grow tall. We are brainwashed here in Western countries that cows milk is somehow good for us. Its not particulary. Its filled with growth hormones for a start. And have you ever seen a dairy cow? Oh I'm rambling on.
And this is completely off topic as you're asking about soy products for babies in Finland. Sorry. I just feel passionately about this!
M-T
Our littlest one 20 months went straight from the breast to riisie vellie, He loves it. I / we give him 0%fat cows milk every now and then but he's just fine.
Horses for courses I guess.
The oldest one, when he was coming of the breast he loved the carrot soup. Thing was he liked it so much he started to turn yellow
I guess too much of one thing is not good 
Hes a fine young boy now, the yellowish went in a couple of days and now with the added bonus that he can see really well in the dark
Horses for courses I guess.
The oldest one, when he was coming of the breast he loved the carrot soup. Thing was he liked it so much he started to turn yellow
I guess too much of one thing is not good Hes a fine young boy now, the yellowish went in a couple of days and now with the added bonus that he can see really well in the dark
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So what is she meant to do?
I think the original question has been over looked. Micky knows her baby better than we do, she has seen numerous doctors etc who are not sure what to diagnose.
Micky asked a question and I dont think there has been one reply that answers her questions (mine included though I did have a search on the nutricia website).
This is a post about where to find soy milk for little babies not a debate on whether we should drink cows milk or not.
Hannah
I think the original question has been over looked. Micky knows her baby better than we do, she has seen numerous doctors etc who are not sure what to diagnose.
Micky asked a question and I dont think there has been one reply that answers her questions (mine included though I did have a search on the nutricia website).
This is a post about where to find soy milk for little babies not a debate on whether we should drink cows milk or not.
Hannah
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Oh really?micky wrote:It would be more polite to at least consider that possibility that we have indeed seeked medical advice and know what we are talking about.
Consider the possibility that you yourself asked a stupid question before you come impolitely complaining at people that wanted to help you.can you get it without a doctor's prescription.
We suspect
Cheers, Hank W.
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Go register at a local neuvola where the nurses and doctors are experts on babies. Finland became one of the few countries with nearly zero infant mortality already in the prewar years due to this system. *they know*. Most probably the next step is the allergiasairaala, that has the specialists. Milk allergy as in not lactose intolerance is not unknown, so there is information available. This is Finland and not some 3rd world country like UK or Italyscoobymcdoo wrote:So what is she meant to do?
Cheers, Hank W.
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I wont even begin to tell you how bad my neuvola is. My previous one was excellent though. My current one is not so excellent! And as for Sophie's experience in a Finnish hospital, well...at least it was better than the treatment she got in the Swedish one! No experience with the UK ones so we have probably been quite well treated. Not complaining though, overall in Finland it has been excellent.
Now I've wandered off the point again.
Hannah
Now I've wandered off the point again.
Hannah
She never said that in her post..If she had my advice would have still have been the same....scoobymcdoo wrote:. Micky knows her baby better than we do, she has seen numerous doctors etc who are not sure what to diagnose.
Hannah
IMO If Numerous Doctors are "not sure" then mother should not experiment with the childs health.
The child's doctors will soon have a diagnosis and a treatemt.
Be a patient patient..
I expect the response to this post will be that Finnish doctors dont know anything, and that Mum knows best.
The reason for my curt post...!
I have MD friend and he told me that this is a Fiinish woman's disease..
Before they come to the surgery they will have consulted..their mother their sisters...the lady at the City Market check out, work colleagues, and who ever they happen to meet.
They will then present themselves at the surgery with a diagnoses and a request for such and such a medicine/recipe.
On more than one occasion they do so without the child/patient...they leave the "patient" sleeping in it's stroller in the waiting room.
People do not become more irritable as they grow old - they simply stop making the effort to avoid annoying others.
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Sinikettu- I agree with what you are saying. I am a teacher and feel I can assess my child's education needs. I am not a doctor that can assess her medical needs. I learnt this very quickly when I put the Rotar Virus down to a bad case of teething nappy 
. I am, however, very fortunate that my daughter has not been ill since and has not caused us much concern medically speaking.
But, when you have a child that is appears to be unwell the stress and worry that causes must be awful for the parents, especially for us first time parents.
Hannah
. I am, however, very fortunate that my daughter has not been ill since and has not caused us much concern medically speaking. But, when you have a child that is appears to be unwell the stress and worry that causes must be awful for the parents, especially for us first time parents.
Hannah