About moving to Jyväskylä

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:40 am

Hello everyone this is my first post and my questions concern moving to Finland. I was recently accepted into a graduate program at the University of Jyväskylä and I am asking for any advice that anyone has on moving there. Most of the information I have read is for the most part two years old and I am sure that many things have changed in that time.

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Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:52 am

Like what has changed? Amount of trees to count?

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:58 am

On a more positive note

Welcome to Jyväskylä!

Where are you from?

What you are gonna study?

Have you been to Finland before?

Are there any particular hobbies you have that we could point you to the corresponding facilities?

Anything specific you want to know?

Are you male/female?

cooldude_1983 · Post by **cooldude_1983** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:24 am

Lots of things have changed in last six months also...from full snow to full sunlight

Specific queries as to what you want to know will help is answer, you can find some latest happenings at :

http://jyvaskylanseutu.fi/matkailu (In Finnish only, but some sections have a downloadable PDF in English)
http://www.jyvaskyla.fi/tapahtumat/main.php?lang=_eng

Live wencam in City Centre (Called Keskusta in FINNISH)

http://media.keskisuomalainen.fi/webcam/index.html

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:19 pm

sudentassu99 wrote:On a more positive note

Welcome to Jyväskylä!

Where are you from?

What you are gonna study?

Have you been to Finland before?

Are there any particular hobbies you have that we could point you to the corresponding facilities?

Anything specific you want to know?

Are you male/female?

I currently live in Texas, but I was born in California. The program I was accepted into is the Masters program in Music, Mind and Technology. This would be my first trip ever outside of the western hemisphere. Well several of my hobbies are playing trombone (earned my bachelors in music and completing my masters in music), running, baking and cooking.

Well one of the things that I would like to know is what if any local sports teams reside in Jyväskylä and how easy, or difficult, is it to see American sports, in particular college football. That pretty much is all the questions that I have for right now.

Oh I almost forgot to answer your last question. I am a Native American/Hispanic male.

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:36 pm

Congrats o the course!

I'm not too up on the "playing" music scene here, bu as regards running, if you like to get out and about I can strongly recommend you get a copy of the "Ulkoilukartta" (Outdoor Map) from the Tourist Info centre near the town, sorry city centre, sorry city center

Anyway, it details all the local walking, biking and skiiing trails in and around Jyväs. There are 10s and 10s of kms of them

As for cooking, I'm sure you know what you like. Don't rely on fantastic eating-out options here. We've done all the best restaurants in Jyväs, and with the exception of Figaro, my good lady says I can cook better. You can get most ingredients here, although not always, if that makes sense, i.e. if you're shopping for something specific, always have a back-up meal plan in mind if someone is out of stock. What sort of cuisine do you like preparing?

I'm not too sure what you mean by "college football". Football for me is a game where touching the ball too often with your mitts results in penalties and eventually being sent off, so don't expect to see much "American Rugby" action.

Other sports worth watching are icehockey (the local team isn't great, but ok to watch and they play in the national league) and, erm, traditonal wife-carrying, wellington boot throwing, etc

You can mostly get by without any Finnish skills in Jyväs centre. Learning it reasonably takes upwards of a couple of years of total immersion, so think hard before you even try.

If you miss your fellow countrymen, rest assured I've seen a few in bars here, sorry I should correct that, I've "heard" a few. Usually drunk as lords on their second kosekenkorva and shouting a lot. Finns like koskenkorva, but not usually shouting

Anyway, welcome again and if you need any specific local advice, post away

Jukka Aho · Post by **Jukka Aho** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:52 pm

sudentassu99 wrote:You can mostly get by without any Finnish skills in Jyväs centre. Learning it reasonably takes upwards of a couple of years of total immersion, so think hard before you even try.

Surely he can’t do worse than some Brazilian guy?

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:44 am

monolake wrote:[how easy, or difficult, is it to see American sports, in particular college football.

These assclowns probably never seen a college, but you might enjoy it still http://www.jaguaarit.com/ ... meaning you need to go to the field, as it isn't really a tv sport.

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:05 am

monolake wrote: I currently live in Texas, but I was born in California. The program I was accepted into is the Masters program in Music, Mind and Technology. This would be my first trip ever outside of the western hemisphere. Well several of my hobbies are playing trombone (earned my bachelors in music and completing my masters in music), running, baking and cooking.

Well one of the things that I would like to know is what if any local sports teams reside in Jyväskylä and how easy, or difficult, is it to see American sports, in particular college football. That pretty much is all the questions that I have for right now.

Oh I almost forgot to answer your last question. I am a Native American/Hispanic male.

Hey Mono,

I'm not located in Jyväskylä, but in Helsinki, but I've fought over the years to find out how I can get NFL and other US sports here in Finland.

I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.

There's a European sat/cable channel NASN http://www.nasn.com which shows most US sports here in Europe, however do to contractual reasons, NASN in Finland does not show NFL or NBA, but does show NCAA football and basketball. Viasat Sport http://www.viasat.fi shows NFL and Canal Plus http://www.canalplus.fi shows NHL and NBA.

I think Elisa is the local cable operator there http://www.elisa.fi

Lemme know if you need to know something else about US sports.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:07 am

mCowboy wrote: I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.

In some JOAS flat?

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:09 am

mCowboy wrote: I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.

In some JOAS flat?

How about concentrating on the essentials. Seeing some armpit oval is the last concern in the world. Its irrelevant if you even get a tv reception. Getting to Jyväskylä first.

Like, Hey, Mono, have you applied for your residence permit yet? Well, if you haven't, do so as in yesterday, as it takes a while ~ 3-4 months even.

Remembering that one beacon of intelligence more worried of sharing a bathroom than figuring out a few weeks before the plane leaves he needs a passport...

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:11 pm

Hank W. wrote:
mCowboy wrote: I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.
In some JOAS flat?

How about concentrating on the essentials. Seeing some armpit oval is the last concern in the world. Its irrelevant if you even get a tv reception. Getting to Jyväskylä first.

Like, Hey, Mono, have you applied for your residence permit yet? Well, if you haven't, do so as in yesterday, as it takes a while ~ 3-4 months even.

Remembering that one beacon of intelligence more worried of sharing a bathroom than figuring out a few weeks before the plane leaves he needs a passport...

Thankfully the information that the University of Jyväskylä has sent me covers all the paperwork that I must complete. I was using this forum to find out other information and to also create and develop a rapport with other persons online. I appreciate your consideration that you have shown though.

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:16 pm

mCowboy wrote:
monolake wrote: I currently live in Texas, but I was born in California. The program I was accepted into is the Masters program in Music, Mind and Technology. This would be my first trip ever outside of the western hemisphere. Well several of my hobbies are playing trombone (earned my bachelors in music and completing my masters in music), running, baking and cooking.

Well one of the things that I would like to know is what if any local sports teams reside in Jyväskylä and how easy, or difficult, is it to see American sports, in particular college football. That pretty much is all the questions that I have for right now.

Oh I almost forgot to answer your last question. I am a Native American/Hispanic male.
Hey Mono,

I'm not located in Jyväskylä, but in Helsinki, but I've fought over the years to find out how I can get NFL and other US sports here in Finland.

I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.

There's a European sat/cable channel NASN http://www.nasn.com which shows most US sports here in Europe, however do to contractual reasons, NASN in Finland does not show NFL or NBA, but does show NCAA football and basketball. Viasat Sport http://www.viasat.fi shows NFL and Canal Plus http://www.canalplus.fi shows NHL and NBA.

I think Elisa is the local cable operator there http://www.elisa.fi

Lemme know if you need to know something else about US sports.

Thank you so much for the information that you have shared with me regarding how to watch NCAA football in Finland. There are a few great match-ups that I would enjoy seeing. If I have any other questions I will let you know. Once again thank you.

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:17 pm

Hank W. wrote:
mCowboy wrote: I don't know where you will be living, but let's hope it'll have a cable or a satellite hook up.
In some JOAS flat?

in HOAS apt's there's cable or sat TV available...

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:41 pm

sudentassu99 wrote:Congrats o the course!

I'm not too up on the "playing" music scene here, bu as regards running, if you like to get out and about I can strongly recommend you get a copy of the "Ulkoilukartta" (Outdoor Map) from the Tourist Info centre near the town, sorry city centre, sorry city center Anyway, it details all the local walking, biking and skiiing trails in and around Jyväs. There are 10s and 10s of kms of them

As for cooking, I'm sure you know what you like. Don't rely on fantastic eating-out options here. We've done all the best restaurants in Jyväs, and with the exception of Figaro, my good lady says I can cook better. You can get most ingredients here, although not always, if that makes sense, i.e. if you're shopping for something specific, always have a back-up meal plan in mind if someone is out of stock. What sort of cuisine do you like preparing?

I'm not too sure what you mean by "college football". Football for me is a game where touching the ball too often with your mitts results in penalties and eventually being sent off, so don't expect to see much "American Rugby" action.

Other sports worth watching are icehockey (the local team isn't great, but ok to watch and they play in the national league) and, erm, traditonal wife-carrying, wellington boot throwing, etc

You can mostly get by without any Finnish skills in Jyväs centre. Learning it reasonably takes upwards of a couple of years of total immersion, so think hard before you even try.

If you miss your fellow countrymen, rest assured I've seen a few in bars here, sorry I should correct that, I've "heard" a few. Usually drunk as lords on their second kosekenkorva and shouting a lot. Finns like koskenkorva, but not usually shouting

Anyway, welcome again and if you need any specific local advice, post away

Yesterday I had typed a response that I thought was worthy of your posting. Sadly, it was not meant to be as my computer at work timed out when I was away working on another project. I will do my best to replicate what I typed yesterday, but I am quite sure that I will fail.

In regards to cuisine I mostly prepare several things: salads since I enjoy fresh vegetables, grilled vegetables, chicken, salmon, and quite a few rice dishes. That does not mean that I shy away from chicken fried steak (the best I have had has been at the Reata in Fort Worth), buttermilk biscuits with sawmill gravy, fresh fruit pies, etc. As might be expected during the summer the food I prepare is lighter than the winter food. You might say that my cooking reflects both the states of California and Texas since those are the states that I have lived in.

By college football I meant watching the games on television. Thank you for the information about the hockey in Jyväskylä. I expect the hockey to be much better than what is seen in the US.

In regards to my countrymen, I apologize for their behavior. But from the little I know about Finland kosekenkorva is vodka, right? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thank you once again for your reponse and the invitation to ask questions that are more local in nature.

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