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Finnish poetry

Post by lmtduffy » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:09 am

Hi,

Im going to be in Finland for a year form August studying I was wondering if any of ye know of any Finnish literary magazines or collections that would publish English poetry.
IM form Ireland and have been published here a few times in different magazines and would like to try keep this up in Finland.

Ive tried googling but haven t been able to find much information in England.

So if nay of ye know of any magazines that would fit this please post up some details,

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by sammy » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:20 am

I guess expert advice in this regard would be available from the Finnish Literature Society - http://www.finlit.fi/

Magazines... hmm there's the 'famous' Parnasso - http://www.parnasso.fi/ (although IIRC the mag does not publish so much poetry as articles on literature in general...)

Some poetry societies/associations etc...

http://nihilinterit.wordpress.com/
http://www.electricverses.net/
http://www.nokturno.org/

...the latter has some in English, but generally speaking the word in bold right there might be an issue... us Finns tend to write our poetry in our own language(s) :wink: That's also perhaps why Googling won't help you too much as the www-pages would be in Finnish, too... I'd presume there are lots of local poetry associations so it would depend on where exactly you'll be staying.

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by Pursuivant » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:56 am

lmtduffy wrote:any Finnish literary magazines or collections that would publish English poetry.
Huge demand for Azerbaijani poetry in Ireland isn't there?
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by EP » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:08 pm

IM form Ireland and have been published here a few times in different magazines
You can just go on doing that. It doesn´t matter nowadays where you physically are.

Poetry really is the last thing one wants to read in a foreign language.

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by interleukin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:22 pm

I would think that a poetry magazine or similar publications in Finland would be quite strict about only publishing things in Finnish. I know it is like that in Iceland. You have a small language and you have a public that is interested in this language and its poetry. Why on earth would you want to publish something in English? There´s poetry in English everywhere, let the small languages have their culture in peace somewhere.

You must be able to send emails or snail mail with your poetry to magazines in countries where English is a native language.
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by lmtduffy » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:18 pm

interleukin wrote:I would think that a poetry magazine or similar publications in Finland would be quite strict about only publishing things in Finnish. I know it is like that in Iceland. You have a small language and you have a public that is interested in this language and its poetry. Why on earth would you want to publish something in English? There´s poetry in English everywhere, let the small languages have their culture in peace somewhere.

You must be able to send emails or snail mail with your poetry to magazines in countries where English is a native language.
well Id presume that many Finnish people who would like to get there poetry read by as much people as possible would have their work translated or else write in English.

I have no plans of challenging the small language, Im looking to get my work published in the place Ill be living if that is not possible I can live with it.

I can send stuff else where but a big part of developing yourself as a writer is networking as in meeting the publishers at launches, doing reading and meeting other poets of all languages.
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by lmtduffy » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:20 pm

sammy wrote:I guess expert advice in this regard would be available from the Finnish Literature Society - http://www.finlit.fi/

Magazines... hmm there's the 'famous' Parnasso - http://www.parnasso.fi/ (although IIRC the mag does not publish so much poetry as articles on literature in general...)

Some poetry societies/associations etc...

http://nihilinterit.wordpress.com/
http://www.electricverses.net/
http://www.nokturno.org/

...the latter has some in English, but generally speaking the word in bold right there might be an issue... us Finns tend to write our poetry in our own language(s) :wink: That's also perhaps why Googling won't help you too much as the www-pages would be in Finnish, too... I'd presume there are lots of local poetry associations so it would depend on where exactly you'll be staying.
thanks Ill have a look,

I figure there will be some sort of group at the University too.
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by sammy » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:25 pm

lmtduffy wrote:well Id presume that many Finnish people who would like to get there poetry read by as much people as possible would have their work translated or else write in English.
:shock:

Translations - perhaps, but Finns writing poetry. of all things, in English (or any other language that's not their mother tongue) spells disaster, poetry-wise. If you ask me, that is.

If you don't understand why... well suffice it to say that you've got a lot to learn about poetry :wink:

(that's not to say you couldn't write proper poetry in English, I can't possibly comment on that... but could you really really do it in, say Spanish or French? I know I couldn't do it in English, I mean my English isn't half bad but it's not quite good enough for pottery IMO...)

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by lmtduffy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:22 am

sammy wrote:
lmtduffy wrote:well Id presume that many Finnish people who would like to get there poetry read by as much people as possible would have their work translated or else write in English.
:shock:

Translations - perhaps, but Finns writing poetry. of all things, in English (or any other language that's not their mother tongue) spells disaster, poetry-wise. If you ask me, that is.

If you don't understand why... well suffice it to say that you've got a lot to learn about poetry :wink:

(that's not to say you couldn't write proper poetry in English, I can't possibly comment on that... but could you really really do it in, say Spanish or French? I know I couldn't do it in English, I mean my English isn't half bad but it's not quite good enough for pottery IMO...)
Many poets that can do,
and many magazines are bilingual for obvious reasons.
Just a matter of finding them.
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:55 am

lmtduffy wrote:[
well Id presume that many Finnish people who would like to get there poetry read by as much people as possible would have their work translated or else write in English..
Why, next they'd print their drivels onto bogrolls, so it reaches everybody at a moment they have time to read poetry.
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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:24 am

sammy wrote: I mean my English isn't half bad but it's not quite good enough for pottery
Shall I compare thee to a cracked teapot?
Thou should have been better tempered.
Soggy leaves that were the Darjeeling buds on sale.
And the packet hath all too short a date.
Sometime too hot the water boils,
And often is the pot complexion dimm'd;
And even milk sometime curdles,
By chance or nature's geehair untrimm'd;
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by sammy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:28 am

lmtduffy wrote:Many poets that can do,
and many magazines are bilingual for obvious reasons.
Just a matter of finding them.
Well, go ahead and find them then :lol:

The bilingual magazines you're likely to find here, though, will be in Finnish and Swedish. For obvious reasons :wink:

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by EP » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:17 pm

well Id presume that many Finnish people who would like to get there poetry read by as much people as possible would have their work translated or else write in English.
I am sure they would like to get their poetry translated, but "or else write in English"?

I think we have a very different conception of language. Native language (maybe mother tongue describes it better?) is something more than just a language. That is something where you understand different nyances from one syllable, can invent your own words and still be understood, have a zillion and one synonyms, and so on. It is something your mind and heart speaks. You don´t just start to write in another language, it would not be the same. And you certainly don´t start to write poetry.

One of the reasons why I think parents should always speak to their children in their native language, it doesn´t matter what the language is.

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by sammy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:35 pm

EP wrote:And you certainly don´t start to write poetry.
Well it is of course possible to write bad poetry in a foreign language :wink:

Otherwise - I completely agree with what you wrote.

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Re: Finnish poetry

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:35 pm

EP wrote: And you certainly don´t start to write poetry.
me tarzan
you jane
cheetah out
you want my liana
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Something wicked this way comes."


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