Beginners course in Karate.

[sociableloner]

Beginners Course in Ashihara Karate

Ashihara Karate is a modern and effective style of karate. Training includes punching, kicking, blocks, defensive techniques and a range of take downs. The training is pragmatic, efficient, and safe. It is known as "fighting karate" by its practitioners.

The beginners course for Spring 2011 will start Tuesday 11 January at 1700 at our Dojo, Takkatie 10, opposite Pitäjänmäki railway station.

Minimum age is 14 years and training is held on Tuesdays and Fridays from 5:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. Beginners' course is taught by the Finnish Ashihara karate chief instructor Sami Sallinen 1 dan.

No previous martial arts experience is needed, just a t-shirt and some sweat pants. The course fee is € 150.

Finland Ashihara Karate is a part of the New International Karate Organization (NIKO) and the Finnish Karate Association.

For further info, please contact


Sami Sallinen
karate@nishi.fi
040-8427685
http://www.sabaki.fi
Alkeiskurssin ikäraja on 14 vuotta. Harjoitukset pidetään tiistaisin ja perjantaisin klo 17:00-18:30. Alkeiskurssin opettajana toimii Suomen Ashihara karaten pääopettaja Sami Sallinen 1. dan.

Aikaisempaa kamppailulajikokemusta ei tarvita. Varusteiksi riittävät t-paita ja verkkarit tms. Kurssin hinta on 150 €.

Ashihara karate on moderni ja tehokas karatetyylisuunta. Harjoittelu pitää sisällään lyönti-, potku- ja torjuntatekniikoid...en lisäksi myös yksinkertaisia kaatoja. Harjoittelussa tähdätään käytännönläheisyyteen ja tehokkuuteen, mutta myös turvallisuuteen.

Suomen Ashihara karate on lajin maailmanlaajuisen kattojärjestön New International Karate Organisationin (NIKO) sekä Suomen karateliiton jäsen.

Lisätietoja:
http://www.sabaki.fi/

Sami Sallinen
karate@nishi.fi
040-8427685

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[Sophie Hart]

That is cool....but isn't karate more of a softer type of Martial arts I mean yes it has all those kicks that need training yes...but isn't muay thai or MMA easier. What is so unique in karate that isn't in the others?

[FinnGuyHelsinki]

...but isn't muay thai or MMA easier. What is so unique in karate that isn't in the others?

MMA easier? How exactly? Kicks, punches, elbow and knee strikes, locks, chokes,... basically every technique you could think of (excluding eye-gouging, punching to the throat and others that are especially hazardous or unsportsmanlike, as it still is a sport). Any martial art training is hard from the physical point of view, beginners courses should be viewed more as physical conditioning and an introduction to martial arts, there's no point discussing which is 'the best' or 'most effective' in that context.

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

MMA easier than karate!!!???? Surely you must have just typed easier by mistake.

Step in any MMA gym, forget striking, and just 'roll' for a minute or 2 and see how you cope.

The conditioning needed for MMA and Muay Thai are a lot higher than for karate. They are professional sports after all.

[Sophie Hart]

Well I have been on MMA since this january and i have leanred quite a number of attacks and defenses there are i have learned them....I practice especially the Krav maga and Muay thai technique.....but i have seen all the various styles of karate and Kung Fu and i have taken some courses in Kung Fu and Wing Chin....they just never end....of course MMA needs the stamina and power and greater capacity of fighter.....but grasping all the various moves and defenses and the whole concept of Karate and/or kung fu is tiring......i really got worked out and tired during the course...Krav maga is the simple form martial arts...an atatck in defense and straightforward no fancy kicks or takedowns...and thats its weakness...only professional krav maga has kicks and takedowns...other wise its is simple "8 limbed" techniques that are the characteristics of Muay thai as well...

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

but i have seen all the various styles of karate and Kung Fu

All of them? I am impressed...here is a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch ... rtial_arts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styles_of_karate (incomplete)

Krav maga is the simple form martial arts...an atatck in defense and straightforward no fancy kicks or takedowns...and thats its weakness...

I believe that's its strength. There is no silly "Dragon-kills-rising-phoenix-spinning-turning-jumping-upside-down kick" nonsense. Simple, but effective techniques.
As you know, Krav Maga is used by the Isreali military and special forces in other countries...It probably is a little bit effective if those guys are going to be trained in it.

An 'attack in defence' is one of the most important things in self defence...'preemptive striking' as it's called.

Well...you can read this article by Geoff Thompson yourself :

"The pre-emptive strike
If your choice is a physical response, my advice is to be pre-emptive and strike first - very hard - preferably on the jaw (it's a direct link to the brain). The concept of defence at the point of contact is not only unsound it is dangerous and extremely naive. Waiting for someone to attack you is strategic madness because blocks don't work! The Kwai-Chang-Cain theory of block and counter-attack is even more absurd, especially if you are facing more than one opponent. There is no finesse about fighting multiple opponents, they do not line up and attack you one at a time they strike like a swarm of bees and luck is the only thing that'll keep a beat in your heart."

http://www.geoffthompson.com/detailArticles.asp?id=21

If you are learning martial arts for a hobby, then the styles in pajamas with fancy techniques are fun but if you are looking for self-defence then the fancy stuff is a waste of time. A cliched example...how do you do a 'fancy kick' when you are fighting in a nightclub toilet? Or standing on an ice covered Finnish street? If the technique is useless, then why learn it?

Martial arts have moved on...It's not the 1970s anymore.

[Sophie Hart]

Exactly ..... that is its strength.....sorry i meant that is what it lacked....no fancy stuff...but if ever in a showdown the weakness might show up if other player is equally agile attacking from all angles then the fancy footwork here mighta work..... secondly what it lacks is the characteristic that it naturally abolishes takedowns and holds and kicks but are nevertheless included in the training at higher levels .... secondly a fight must be quick....it is against Krav maga ethics to launch the attack .... always stay on the defense ....preemptive striking is utilized....and only like the karate, savate, taekwondo, wing chun, kung fu styles because of their amazing diversity as very efficient killing machines in the takedown, holding and locking. thats why i chose to mix muay thai with krav maga in my sessions....MMA is the perfect form of martial arts

[sociableloner]

I hadn't intended for this post to become a debate about which style is better than any other, that's pointless and misses one fundamental issue, which any decent martial artist of any style will tell you - it's the artist in question, not her/his style as some of the users have said. However, Ashihara Karate has some traditional elements of Karate but a strong emphasis on practical fighting techniques for a range of situations which answers the questions raised about some of the more elaborate kicks. It is a sport and people compete but it's also designed for practical self defense and the fitness work is great.

To answer the question about whether it is "softer", the dojo takes account of all abilities, hence why this is a beginners course. Within the rules of knock-down karate, we do full contact training which are by no means "soft" and this is graduated by experience - The higher belts often have very hard sparring sessions and these belts (from the 5th kyu to 1st Dan) are expected to be comfortable fighting/sparring at full contact for their weight class and gender and be able to apply the techniques taught in as close to a real situation as we can give. The dojo builds people up to this carefully and safely.

Best regards.

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

it's the artist in question, not her/his style as some of the users have said.

Well, true to a degree....but also the methods of training the system are important too. A Thai boxer training like a tai chi practitioner won't be much good. Endless kata, as I did when I started out, is pointless. (Not saying kata is bad...but you know).

I hadn't intended for this post to become a debate about which style is better than any other

You should know that it always turns into a 'which style is best' discussion...It's martial arts after all.

[sociableloner]

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