automobile question

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Sun May 16, 2004 11:47 pm

okay,

the move's almost organised. my car will be going with the removals guys - OK - and will therefore be declared there.
i presume as i'm driving the other one up, then i need to speak to customs directly at hanko, yes? and then present the docs, insurance forms, etc etc.... and they will note that this VIN is declared as part of removal goods.
next question: can i choose my licence / registration {delete as appropriate} plate? i could here in germany, which is why we have funny letter / number combinations - can i do this in FIN too? i know, it's sad, but i like the idea....

Bret

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Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Mon May 17, 2004 9:39 am

Well, you won't get new plates until after your tax is settled and you get to go to the inspection. Then it depends what thy have available at that inspection station.

You can get vanity plates like SEX-1, but they cost something like 1000 euros.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:35 pm

€1000????

hell, i paid €12 here....everyone does it. wow.

okay, i'll stop being so silly.

thanks

Bret

riksu · Post by **riksu** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:23 pm

Does anybody already know how much are the taxes on cars in Finland?
And what about the insurance?

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:48 pm

Insurance depends on the size of the engine + where you live. Mandatory insurance is much the same amount in every company. The only way to get some reductions is to have all insurances 'centralized' to one company (like your home insurance etc.) If you say what car I can get you a ballpark figure - they have quoter calculators online.

Taxes on cars... heh... in Finland cars are tax on wheels covered with paint and rust.

Depending if it is a diesel or regular and a few other things there is a so-called 'vehichle tax' you pay. It changed from yearly to daily, so you only pay the amount the time you own the car. That is something like 80-120 euros a year, again depending on the age of the car - a 2004 costs more.

Other than that there is no taxes, unless you imagine ofimporting a car over after which the thumb rule is double the price what you have in Germany. And add 22% on top. You can bring a car with you when you move, but there is some restrictions. http://www.tulli.fi has some rules.

nisha_n6 · Post by **nisha_n6** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:01 pm

do you really have to register your car and your removal goods already in hanko (if you come with the ferry?)
I thought you have one month time to register your car when you arrive..
does anybody know more?

cheers,

nisha

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:45 pm

yes, no, you are in the customs you have to fill in the papers; they give your car red stickers and you wait for the official decision then for a while. if you just drive through you can do it afterwards, but then it gets more and more complicated....

sept · Post by **sept** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:51 pm

nisha_n6 wrote:do you really have to register your car and your removal goods already in hanko (if you come with the ferry?)
I thought you have one month time to register your car when you arrive..
does anybody know more?

cheers,

nisha

You have 6 months to decide, Do not stop at the customs post in Hanko, You just drive your car here with your home country insurance, and at some point before the 6 months are up go to the office in Helsinki and start the registration process,
Just make sure you keep something such as your ferry tickets to prove the date you entered the country with your car!

MaHoHo · Post by **MaHoHo** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:57 am

Hi there!

I'm new, so please be patient with me if I do something wrong. (Somewhere newbies have to introduce themselves?)

I just wanted to say that this 6 month period is somewhat confusing. I was told at Tulli that if you want the usual "tax redemption for bringing cars as removal goods" you have to go to Tulli within a month of bringing the "removal good" to Finland. They ask you for some proof of when you came to Finland (Ferry ticket) and thus check the date. I was there about three days before the end of this period

So don't wait too long, otherwise you are not allowed to drive with your german numberplates and have to get those temporary ones.

Cheers,
Markus

Who just left his car at some garage for repairs because Katsastus found some faults...

nisha_n6 · Post by **nisha_n6** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:05 am

yeah, I was told the same about this one month period. when we called for this office dealing with taxation of cars

the problem with the six month period and foreign number plates is that a finnish friend can only drive with the car if you are sitting also in it. means the car can only be used exclusively by you.

(that is actually what I personally don't want)

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:00 pm

nisha_n6 wrote:...means the car can only be used exclusively by you.
(that is actually what I personally don't want)

The plates don't matter, the car can only be driven by you for it's first 2 years in Finland...this is the time that it takes all the "tax" to disappear.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:32 pm

Otherwise if someone else drives the car and it is stopped on the road; the car will sit in the customs pound untill you pay all taxes on it.

sept · Post by **sept** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:27 pm

MaHoHo wrote:
I just wanted to say that this 6 month period is somewhat confusing. I was told at Tulli that if you want the usual "tax redemption for bringing cars as removal goods" you have to go to Tulli within a month of bringing the "removal good" to Finland. They ask you for some proof of when you came to Finland (Ferry ticket) and thus check the date. I was there about three days before the end of this period

Cheers,
Markus

Everything about tax in Finland is confusing!
However, here it is in black and white, along with a link to the relevent page!

4.1.2A Settling down in Finland step by step

A person who has stayed in Finland temporarily before moving to live in Finland is entitled to the tax reduction granted in respect of a vehicle imported as part of removal goods if he can show that the requirements set out above in section 4.1.2 have been fulfilled immediately before his arrival in Finland for a temporary stay. This means that the person shall have stayed abroad uninterruptedly for at least one year immediately before arriving in Finland. In addition, he shall have had the vehicle abroad under his ownership or possession leading to ownership and in his use for at least six months immediately before his arrival in Finland.

In the above, arrival in Finland is taken to mean the date on which the person for the first time arrives in Finland for a temporary stay. During the 12 months preceding his arrival in Finland the person shall not have stayed in Finland for purposes other than temporary visits as laid down in the first paragraph of Section 26 of the Car Tax Act (see section 4.2).

It is also required for tax reduction that the vehicle is declared for taxation as removal goods within six months from the beginning of the temporary stay. If the vehicle has been in Finland temporarily free of tax as a so-called tourist car within the meaning of the second paragraph of Section 2 of the Car Tax Act and the time limit for the use of the vehicle free of tax has been extended by a permit in writing given by the Customs District concerned, the declaration may be lodged before the extended period expires but not later than within 18 months from the beginning of the temporary stay.

The obligation to declare mentioned above is a condition for granting the vehicle tax treatment as part of removal goods. Thus a vehicle which has been used in Finland but which has not been declared for taxation as removal goods within the prescribed time is not considered being imported as removal goods.

http://www.tulli.fi/en/02_Publications/ ... ng.jsp#12a

MaHoHo · Post by **MaHoHo** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:17 pm

Right. There it says temporary stay. That is the confusing part. If you come to Finland for permanent stay, i.e. registering for Social Security number etc., you have to do it within one month of starting this permanent stay. Thats what the nice lady at Tulli said, anyway.

So when you come to Finland, be sure you know if it is temporarily or permanent.

Markus

sept · Post by **sept** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:21 pm

MaHoHo wrote:Right. There it says temporary stay. That is the confusing part. If you come to Finland for permanent stay, i.e. registering for Social Security number etc., you have to do it within one month of starting this permanent stay. Thats what the nice lady at Tulli said, anyway.

So when you come to Finland, be sure you know if it is temporarily or permanent.

Markus

No What it says is that you have 6 months to decide if you are staying permanently or not! And only when you have decided do you need to declare your car,
And I know it works because that is what I did.

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