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Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by trinkitrins » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 am

Hi

I know that this has been discussed before, but I am getting confused after reading the Finnish Nationality law and the relevant posts. Kindly help me in this regard.

I am a non-EU citizen, I am single and following is my residence history in Finland

1 Jan 2009 - 31 Dec 2010 B Type Residence permit for Student (counted as 1 year)
1 Jan 2011 - 31 Dec 2011 A Type Residence permit for work (counted as 1 year)
1 Jan 2012 - 31 Dec 2013 A Type Residence Permit for work (counted as 2 years)

If I pass the Finnish language exam, can I apply for Finnish citizenship at the end of 31 Dec 2013, based on 4 year residence.

Thanks



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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by Upphew » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:36 am

trinkitrins wrote:Hi

I know that this has been discussed before, but I am getting confused after reading the Finnish Nationality law and the relevant posts. Kindly help me in this regard.

I am a non-EU citizen, I am single and following is my residence history in Finland

1 Jan 2009 - 31 Dec 2010 B Type Residence permit for Student (counted as 1 year)
1 Jan 2011 - 31 Dec 2011 A Type Residence permit for work (counted as 1 year)
1 Jan 2012 - 31 Dec 2013 A Type Residence Permit for work (counted as 2 years)

If I pass the Finnish language exam, can I apply for Finnish citizenship at the end of 31 Dec 2013, based on 4 year residence.

Thanks
You can apply, but you don't fulfill the requirements, so the application will be denied:
"Period of residence

A requirement for citizenship is that you live in Finland and that you have done so for a sufficient length of time (period of residence). Exceptions to the residential period requirement may be made in individual cases.

Your period of residence is of sufficient length if you have lived in Finland

for the last five years without interruption (continuous period of residence) or"
http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... nce_period
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by trinkitrins » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:53 am

But then it says

You have the required language skills and close ties with Finland

If you have the required language skills to apply for citizenship and you have close ties with Finland because you have legally lived in Finland for a long time or on the basis of other similar reasons, it is enough that your actual home and residence have been in Finland for the past four years without interruption

So if I acquire language skills, will 4 years be enough

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by Upphew » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:45 am

trinkitrins wrote:But then it says

You have the required language skills and close ties with Finland

If you have the required language skills to apply for citizenship and you have close ties with Finland because you have legally lived in Finland for a long time or on the basis of other similar reasons, it is enough that your actual home and residence have been in Finland for the past four years without interruption

So if I acquire language skills, will 4 years be enough
And your close ties would be.. what?

Also B-permit is only counted as 50%: "If you had a temporary residence permit (B permit) before you obtained a continuous residence permit, half the time you lived in Finland with a temporary residence permit will be counted as residential time."
http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... ntial_time
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:05 pm

Since when exactly did they start giving out citizenship without the language requirements? :shock:
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by interleukin » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:15 pm

Since when exactly did they start giving out citizenship without the language requirements?
If I read the OPs posts correctly, hän plans to take the Finnish language tests.

Side note: Nordics & former Finnish residents can get citizenship without language requirements.
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by Upphew » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:33 pm

interleukin wrote:Side note: Nordics & former Finnish residents can get citizenship without language requirements.
And some other special groups: http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... age_skills

edit. and if you have to ask if you would fall on some special group... you most likely don't.
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by interleukin » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:18 pm

Of course I meant former Finnish citizens, not residents. Sorry.
But yeah, that was just me being slightly off-topic, the OP almost certainly has to do a language test. But to do that, it seems hän has to wait one more year.
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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by trinkitrins » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:47 pm

A lot of off topic trolls.

So is 4 years with language test enough.

Can some one explain what does close ties to finland means.

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by onkko » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:53 pm

trinkitrins wrote:A lot of off topic trolls.

So is 4 years with language test enough.

Can some one explain what does close ties to finland means.
There is no trolls.

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by trinkitrins » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:57 pm

thanks onnko

finally some one answering the questions

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by cors187 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:58 pm

interleukin wrote:


Side note: Nordics & former Finnish residents can get citizenship without language requirements.
Im guessing nordics is like giving your cousins who dont like you and dont speak your language a spare key to the front door.

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by cors187 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:05 pm

trinkitrins wrote:
So is 4 years with language test enough.
I think the years are qualification to apply for the citizen test,so you can figure that really easy.

http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... nce_period

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by interleukin » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:43 pm

Im guessing nordics is like giving your cousins who dont like you and dont speak your language a spare key to the front door.
Hmm another sentence from you I don't understand.

The nordics tend to have a mother tongue that is closely related to Swedish, so they get by on that. It would be pretty pointless to force eg. a Norwegian to do a language test to prove Swedish skills.

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Re: Finnish Citizenship, Help Required

Post by cors187 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:50 pm

interleukin wrote:
Im guessing nordics is like giving your cousins who dont like you and dont speak your language a spare key to the front door.
Hmm another sentence from you I don't understand.

The nordics tend to have a mother tongue that is closely related to Swedish, so they get by on that. It would be pretty pointless to force eg. a Norwegian to do a language test to prove Swedish skills.
Estonian and Finnish are closer, correct?
Theres nothing mysterious about it.
Your cousins who arnt so much related to you as to the other cousins who dont like you as much as the other cousins. :thumbsup:


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