Worries about RP Application (based on family ties)

[Rip]

I would not be too worried. You seem to have a story that looks good on paper. Keep a hold of your (current) passports, the stamps on which offer proof regarding the time line.

They don't ask at submission time any more supporting documentation than those passports that they'll copy for the stamps. If you'd be called to an interview, then I'd take take nay papers that you think will support your story, but I'm not too sure that will even happen. Many people from Turkey have problems, but then there are also these lightning romances between Finnish woman and a Turkish man 10 year her junior. Educated woman that can travel to western Europe even without a EU spouse must look better, and I'm pretty sure you have better than average common history (and I'm not talking just about Turkish applications)

I'd opt to get married rather sooner than later and then submitting the RP application in Turkey. (Assuming that you'd be ready (Studies etc.) to move to Finland within a couple of months from getting the permit, which if you're lucky, might be within a couple of months from submitting the application)

[liliacea]

I would not be too worried. You seem to have a story that looks good on paper. Keep a hold of your (current) passports, the stamps on which offer proof regarding the time line.

They don't ask at submission time any more supporting documentation than those passports that they'll copy for the stamps. If you'd be called to an interview, then I'd take take nay papers that you think will support your story, but I'm not too sure that will even happen. Many people from Turkey have problems, but then there are also these lightning romances between Finnish woman and a Turkish man 10 year her junior. Educated woman that can travel to western Europe even without a EU spouse must look better, and I'm pretty sure you have better than average common history (and I'm not talking just about Turkish applications)

I'd opt to get married rather sooner than later and then submitting the RP application in Turkey. (Assuming that you'd be ready (Studies etc.) to move to Finland within a couple of months from getting the permit, which if you're lucky, might be within a couple of months from submitting the application)

Thanks a lot for the answer!
Well, I better make copies of my current passport then. Because once I get married, I lose my right to have this "special" passport, and have to return it to the Turkish police - that is, I cannot keep the old "special" passport at home with me, or throw it out, theoretically.
And since I will make the RP application with a brand new, "ordinary" Turkish passport, they won't be able to see any of the stamps of my previous travels, including the travel I will make in March (or in August) to get married. But I guess it's wise to have the photocopies of the stamped pages of my old passport, cause I can present them if needed.

[rinso]

I agree with Rip, your story doesn't look bad at all.
Just tie the knot and apply for a RP.

[Rip]

Thanks a lot for the answer!
Well, I better make copies of my current passport then. Because once I get married, I lose my right to have this "special" passport, and have to return it to the Turkish police - that is, I cannot keep the old "special" passport at home with me, or throw it out, theoretically.
And since I will make the RP application with a brand new, "ordinary" Turkish passport, they won't be able to see any of the stamps of my previous travels, including the travel I will make in March (or in August) to get married. But I guess it's wise to have the photocopies of the stamped pages of my old passport, cause I can present them if needed.

This gets bit tricky, as the authorities (police in Finland, presumably embassy staff abroad) would want to copy the passport themselves when you submit the application. At least self made photo copies (lacking confirmation that they are authentic) can't be so good.
How about contacting the Finnish embassy now and asking for instructions? For example, if it were possible for you to submit the application for the permit first, and hand over your old passport to Turkish authorities only afterwards, that could be perfectly OK for Finns even if you had to pick the permit with another passport later. The current residence permit document is a credit card size thing that is not permanently attached to any particular copy of a passport. Even if that were not be OK, they should be able to give you advice how to have the copies taken in most proper way.

[liliacea]

Thanks a lot for the answer!
Well, I better make copies of my current passport then. Because once I get married, I lose my right to have this "special" passport, and have to return it to the Turkish police - that is, I cannot keep the old "special" passport at home with me, or throw it out, theoretically.
And since I will make the RP application with a brand new, "ordinary" Turkish passport, they won't be able to see any of the stamps of my previous travels, including the travel I will make in March (or in August) to get married. But I guess it's wise to have the photocopies of the stamped pages of my old passport, cause I can present them if needed.

This gets bit tricky, as the authorities (police in Finland, presumably embassy staff abroad) would want to copy the passport themselves when you submit the application. At least self made photo copies (lacking confirmation that they are authentic) can't be so good.
How about contacting the Finnish embassy now and asking for instructions? For example, if it were possible for you to submit the application for the permit first, and hand over your old passport to Turkish authorities only afterwards, that could be perfectly OK for Finns even if you had to pick the permit with another passport later. The current residence permit document is a credit card size thing that is not permanently attached to any particular copy of a passport. Even if that were not be OK, they should be able to give you advice how to have the copies taken in most proper way.

Ok. I better contact the embassy and also the Turkish police then. I think the embassy would be ok. with it, but it's the Turkish Police which will not allow it, I assume. I don't have much hope that they're going to allow me to keep the passport once I'm married. The rules are pretty set and clear about this "special" passport, and I have to return to the authorities it as soon as possible after I marry. I am guessing I can't even make an application with my "special" passport after I marry, cause that passport loses its "official" status... It's basically not considered a document that I can use anymore... So, if I applied with my old, "special" passport, I would be applying with an unofficial document that has no validity. I think I would also be commiting a crime in Turkey by keeping and still using (using it in an application) it.
Well, I can always choose to "not inform" the authorities in Turkey about my marriage, or inform them after I've submitted my RP application, but that's also a crime. Many people have to pay fines for that (for still using the passport even after they lose the right to have it.) But this is just what I've learned from reading stuff online, I better call and ask in person. Maybe (hopefully) they can make an exception in my case. Cause I really wouldn't dare to break the Turkish law by applying with my old passport.
But doesn't the Immigration Office in Finland see that I got this "new" passport recently (like, the date of it), and 99% of our relationship with my boyfriend dates back to when I had the older passport? Like, can't they request the information on my old passport themselves from the Turkish police (if the copies I made are unreliable)? Although I'm also not sure if the Turkish Police stores that information... Because they basically (psyhically) destroy all the old passports that are returned to them, to prevent anyone from using them illegaly. (At least that's what happened to my old passport when it expired and I returned it to the police. They literally cut it into pieces in front of my eyes. )

[Rip]

Cause I really wouldn't dare to break the Turkish law by applying with my old passport.

and if it is not a valid travel document anymore then it is not proper according to Finnish law either.

But doesn't the Immigration Office in Finland see that I got this "new" passport recently (like, the date of it)

Of course. As I said I don't see why you would not eventually get your permit, but from the point of view of getting it even reasonably fast, it would be better if your application were as close to "ideal" as possible. They state it explicitly regarding citizenship applications and I think it likely applies in one for or the other with applications too: If you have an application that both matches all the required conditions and has just the requested documents attached that give the proof they want, then your application is likely put after a first screening to a pile with other applications that are also expected to be approved other some relative simple checks.

The other applications go then to another pile, where the processing is not only slowed by their own shortcomings but also of those that are before them in the slow queue.

Maybe the lacking stamps would not matter in practice, but you could ask, if you should for example in this case bring some secondary documentation (for example airline tickets), or if they requested you to make a visit to the embassy already before your marriage.

[Pursuivant]

The only problem you will have is no women exist in Turkey.
At least in the Finnish man's point of reality there is only a hairy hand pizzakebab guy that comes to Finland. If you ask any Finnish man, they have never seen a Turkish woman. So you must be a figment of imagination only.

[liliacea]

The only problem you will have is no women exist in Turkey.
At least in the Finnish man's point of reality there is only a hairy hand pizzakebab guy that comes to Finland. If you ask any Finnish man, they have never seen a Turkish woman. So you must be a figment of imagination only.

Well that is in a way true. Cause it's usually the other way around - like a Turkish guy marrying a Finnish girl is the more common case. Or most Turkish women who come to Finland to be with their husbands are not outside that much, except maybe shopping for groceries, or helping their husbands at the kebab place, so you can't really see them around. But yea, I've only met one Turkish woman so far who is married to a Finnish guy. So, my case does exist, although it is kind of unique.

I am not Finn but I have seen a turkish girl in Finland. We used to share few language classes in University days. I must admit they are pretty too.

Yes, and there are those ones like me who come to Finland with AFS, Erasmus or some other kind of exchange programme. Or also to do their master's etc. I know two Turkish girls who are doing their master's at University of Helsinki at the moment.